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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:49 pm
by Meridian_Mike
Steve Warden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:15 pm
Growing up Air Force, then serving myself, I've had over 30 addresses in maybe 20 different areas. There are pros and cons for each and every place. Are there places we think we would rather live? Certainly. But what I am certain of, and the most important "pro" there is, is that God has us here, in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, for His purposes. We are blessed to be here and to be used by Him as He sees fit.
Until He says, "time to go!" we'll stay right where we are, and be pleased in doing so.
Very good words to live by Steve!
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:06 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
Steve Warden wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:56 pm
Finally got it home.
The wait for the range to open is going to be intense.
Uberti 1873 El Patrón 357
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The color case on the Ubertis is really excellent. I have had a Uberti Bisley 357 for a couple of years and have run 1600 rounds thru it. The trigger on mine was a little rough when it was new, but has worn in nicely as has the entire action. I have been using the Acme Hi Tek coated cast bullets in my home brew cowboy loads and they really do keep the guns cleaner than traditional cast bullets. I use them in my 45/70 Henry single shot also.
The Acme Hi Tek coated cast bullets loaded into 357 mag and 45/70 cases. Acme calls them the "lipstick" bullet.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:36 pm
by Steve Warden
Thanks OC.
Got a pic of your Bisley?
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:16 am
by OLDE CUTLER
Steve Warden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:36 pm
Thanks OC.
Got a pic of your Bisley?
Pages 245, and 246 of this thread.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:29 am
by Steve Warden
Niiiiiiiiiiiice!
Thanks for finding those for me.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:47 am
by thankgod4rkids
OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:16 am
Steve Warden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:36 pm
Thanks OC.
Got a pic of your Bisley?
Pages 245, and 246 of this thread.
That is nice! I've had my eye on Taylor's open top conversion in .38. For now just bangin away with my cap and balls. I always am worried about accuracy on the old school guns without adjustable rear sights. Looks like you got an excellent one. I've got about 700 through my 1858 Remington Pietta and am pretty confident in that. May have to come across the state line and play.
Bill
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:16 am
by OLDE CUTLER
thankgod4rkids wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:47 am
OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:16 am
Steve Warden wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:36 pm
Thanks OC.
Got a pic of your Bisley?
Pages 245, and 246 of this thread.
That is nice! I've had my eye on Taylor's open top conversion in .38. For now just bangin away with my cap and balls. I always am worried about accuracy on the old school guns without adjustable rear sights. Looks like you got an excellent one. I've got about 700 through my 1858 Remington Pietta and am pretty confident in that. May have to come across the state line and play.
Bill
Send me a PM next time you get up to Sioux Falls and we can shoot the breeze and maybe the six shooters too.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:14 am
by Quick Steel
Took my sister revolver shooting today. I was amazed at how quickly she improved her speed and accuracy in less than an hour.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:02 am
by Colonel26
Quick Steel wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:14 am
Took my sister revolver shooting today. I was amazed at how quickly she improved her speed and accuracy in less than an hour.
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Details man! What revolver were you shooting? I surely love revolvers myself and It appears y'all had a good time too!
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:11 am
by Quick Steel
We spent the morning with a Ruger SP 101 and a S&W Model 66.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:18 am
by Colonel26
Quick Steel wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:11 am
We spent the morning with a Ruger SP 101 and a S&W Model 66.
Excellent! I don't have a sp101, but I've heard awful good things about them. I do have a S&W 65-3 which is the fixed sight version of your 66. Excellent revolver, very fun to shoot as I'm sure your 66 is!

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:44 am
by Quick Steel
My 66 is an old model but is a very slick shooter. Usually shoot it with .38 sp. Only occasionally with .357.
Th SP 101 does surprisingly well at unexpectedly longer distances. But not so much for me any longer. My hands are not so steady anymore.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:04 am
by orvet
The administration here in Oregon is not very friendly toward firearms and when the Democratic governors and mayors started talking about eliminating the police departments people got a bit nervous. Then when the couple in St. Louis were all over the news defending their home against rioters people really got nervous. I took my Ruger .40 to my gunsmith to have some work done on it. It had been a gift to me purchased at that store eight years ago but I had never fired it. We went to the range with some friends about three weeks ago and the Ruger which had never been fired after it left the factory wouldn't fire. It would put a dimple in the primer but it would not fire.
Doug finally got it to fire but he said I get four more rounds with doubles in the primer. He says something is definitely wrong. It needs to go to the factory, so he set it off.
I was looking at his inventory which was pretty sparse. He maybe had 10 shotguns of all calibers where he normally has 50 to 70.
He usually has 150 to 200 handguns in four display cases but now he only had about 20 or 25 handguns on display in total.
I did see one Smith & Wesson Edgefield that had been cut down to an 18.5 inch barrel which is legal in my state. The price was real good on it and I told them I would take it. I paid my $195 for the shotgun and $10 for the background check. He said we'll see how quickly it will go through. He entered me into the computer and I was number 4500 in the queue waiting to have my background check approved. That was on July 2 and they said they would call me when the approval came through. On July 8, I happen to be in that part of town driving past the store so I thought I would stop and check. The lady who does the paperwork said, it hasn't come through yet let me go check again. As she looked it up on the computer said, "No it's not approved yet, oops wait a minute just got approved."
It took one week to have the approval for my purchase even though I have a CCP. Before when I have made purchases in might take up to an hour but I can't remember one taking longer than that, and sometimes their instantaneous.
Is it this way and all the states are just the ones that have Democratic governors who are anti-gun?
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:35 am
by cudgee
orvet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:04 am
The administration here in Oregon is not very friendly toward firearms and when the Democratic governors and mayors started talking about eliminating the police departments people got a bit nervous. Then when the couple in St. Louis were all over the news defending their home against rioters people really got nervous. I took my Ruger .40 to my gunsmith to have some work done on it. It had been a gift to me purchased at that store eight years ago but I had never fired it. We went to the range with some friends about three weeks ago and the Ruger which had never been fired after it left the factory wouldn't fire. It would put a dimple in the primer but it would not fire.
Doug finally got it to fire but he said I get four more rounds with doubles in the primer. He says something is definitely wrong. It needs to go to the factory, so he set it off.
I was looking at his inventory which was pretty sparse. He maybe had 10 shotguns of all calibers where he normally has 50 to 70.
He usually has 150 to 200 handguns in four display cases but now he only had about 20 or 25 handguns on display in total.
I did see one Smith & Wesson Edgefield that had been cut down to an 18.5 inch barrel which is legal in my state. The price was real good on it and I told them I would take it. I paid my $195 for the shotgun and $10 for the background check. He said we'll see how quickly it will go through. He entered me into the computer and I was number 4500 in the queue waiting to have my background check approved. That was on July 2 and they said they would call me when the approval came through. On July 8, I happen to be in that part of town driving past the store so I thought I would stop and check. The lady who does the paperwork said, it hasn't come through yet let me go check again. As she looked it up on the computer said, "No it's not approved yet, oops wait a minute just got approved."
It took one week to have the approval for my purchase even though I have a CCP. Before when I have made purchases in might take up to an hour but I can't remember one taking longer than that, and sometimes their instantaneous.
Is it this way and all the states are just the ones that have Democratic governors who are anti-gun?
Over here in the state where i live to purchase a firearm you have to have the appropriate licence to purchase, what i mean is, there a 3 classes of firearm not including hand guns, and unless you are licenced to purchase in that class you cannot purchase. That is part 1, then you have to apply to the firearms registry department of the Police Department to get a permit to purchase, part 3, you go to the gun shop, purchase, they then have to hold it for you for 30 days, this is called calming off period, then part 4, you go and pick up your firearm. We have very strict storage laws, and the police can come and check your storage at any time. Thought you may be interested in how we do it over here.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:04 am
by Quick Steel
That is sad cudgee. Here it normally takes a few minutes, but recently I had to wait a few days. The gun dealer said it was because the gov't is swamped with applications.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:15 am
by orvet
That is interesting. I know you have laws in Australia against switchblades and I think locking blade or Assisted Opening knives. I think that's a bit sad , but if that's the rules that your people hope to live under, then I see nothing wrong with that.
The experience of most men my age in their 60s and older how to get different experience, I grew on a ranch, I always had a pocket knife in my pocket. Growing up in the 50s and 60s most boys had a pocket knife. I even remember a fourth grade school teacher Mrs Kern who instructed us boys to be sure we brought our pocket knives the next day and she would teach us how to play Mumbly Peg.
Guns were pretty much taken for granted also. Up through the sixties and into the 70s most pickups in southern Oregon had a gun rack in the back window. It was not uncommon to see a guy in high school who had a 22 rifle, shotgun or maybe a deer rifle even in the rifle rack of his pickup. Since Southern Oregon can get very hot it was not uncommon to see people leave their windows down even with their rifles in their pickups. Nobody thought anything of it comment was taken for granted but they would be left alone. We were taught us youngsters not to steal don't take something that doesn't belong to you and for the most part nobody did. And was until the late 70s and the full blossoming of the drug culture that we started hearing about people stealing guns.
I would frequent would carry a .22 revolver or rifle for protection against rattlesnakes. I have also encountered bears, Bobcats and coyotes Within about a mile our house. I understand there are also wolves in that area now.
Depending on where you live here in the US beiIg armed when you are out of doors in a rural area is not necessarily a bad thing!
So I have always taken guns and knives granted. They were tools that we used on a daily basis. At that point in my life I didn't know anyone who collected knives or guns. We certainly didn't who were poor folks and didn't have that much money.
Now the script is flipped, we have Governors and Mayors who will not support the police force, they're tying their hands and preventing them from doing their jobs. And used to be if we called the police with an emergency there would be somebody here within about 5 minutes. The other day when antifa was rioting downtown in Portland I was told 911 was not even sending police out. They were telling people you're on your own no, we don't have anybody to send. That is the reason the gun stores can't stay stocked with merchandise, neither guns or ammo.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:53 am
by orvet
cudgee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:35 am
Over here in the state where i live to purchase a firearm you have to have the appropriate licence to purchase, what i mean is, there a 3 classes of firearm not including hand guns, and unless you are licenced to purchase in that class you cannot purchase. That is part 1, then you have to apply to the firearms registry department of the Police Department to get a permit to purchase, part 3, you go to the gun shop, purchase, they then have to hold it for you for 30 days, this is called calming off period, then part 4, you go and pick up your firearm. We have very strict storage laws, and the police can come and check your storage at any time. Thought you may be interested in how we do it over here.
Cudgee, please understand I was not disrespecting your system or anyone else's. I was just trying to share what it is like here now and part of the reasons behind it. It may help others understand why I and many of my generation feel the same way.
I have a friend or two in Australia and it is one country that I would really like to visit because it is so different than the temperate rain forest area of Oregon where I have lived most of my life.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:16 am
by cudgee
orvet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:53 am
cudgee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:35 am
Over here in the state where i live to purchase a firearm you have to have the appropriate licence to purchase, what i mean is, there a 3 classes of firearm not including hand guns, and unless you are licenced to purchase in that class you cannot purchase. That is part 1, then you have to apply to the firearms registry department of the Police Department to get a permit to purchase, part 3, you go to the gun shop, purchase, they then have to hold it for you for 30 days, this is called calming off period, then part 4, you go and pick up your firearm. We have very strict storage laws, and the police can come and check your storage at any time. Thought you may be interested in how we do it over here.
Cudgee, please understand I was not disrespecting your system or anyone else's. I was just trying to share what it is like here now and part of the reasons behind it. It may help others understand why I and many of my generation feel the same way.
I have a friend or two in Australia and it is one country that I would really like to visit because it is so different than the temperate rain forest area of Oregon where I have lived most of my life.
Mate no disrespect taken, the exact opposite, i enjoy reading about your country and how things are done, i just posted to show how it is done here, not to say you should not be complaining, if that is how it came across, it was not meant to. I would never disrespect your country or how you do things, all good mate.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:25 am
by orvet
I took no offense my friend. All good here!

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:43 am
by cudgee
orvet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:15 am
That is interesting. I know you have laws in Australia against switchblades and I think locking blade or Assisted Opening knives. I think that's a bit sad , but if that's the rules that your people hope to live under, then I see nothing wrong with that.
The experience of most men my age in their 60s and older how to get different experience, I grew on a ranch, I always had a pocket knife in my pocket. Growing up in the 50s and 60s most boys had a pocket knife. I even remember a fourth grade school teacher Mrs Kern who instructed us boys to be sure we brought our pocket knives the next day and she would teach us how to play Mumbly Peg.
Guns were pretty much taken for granted also. Up through the sixties and into the 70s most pickups in southern Oregon had a gun rack in the back window. It was not uncommon to see a guy in high school who had a 22 rifle, shotgun or maybe a deer rifle even in the rifle rack of his pickup. Since Southern Oregon can get very hot it was not uncommon to see people leave their windows down even with their rifles in their pickups. Nobody thought anything of it comment was taken for granted but they would be left alone. We were taught us youngsters not to steal don't take something that doesn't belong to you and for the most part nobody did. And was until the late 70s and the full blossoming of the drug culture that we started hearing about people stealing guns.
I would frequent would carry a .22 revolver or rifle for protection against rattlesnakes. I have also encountered bears, Bobcats and coyotes Within about a mile our house. I understand there are also wolves in that area now.
Depending on where you live here in the US beiIg armed when you are out of doors in a rural area is not necessarily a bad thing!
So I have always taken guns and knives granted. They were tools that we used on a daily basis. At that point in my life I didn't know anyone who collected knives or guns. We certainly didn't who were poor folks and didn't have that much money.
Now the script is flipped, we have Governors and Mayors who will not support the police force, they're tying their hands and preventing them from doing their jobs. And used to be if we called the police with an emergency there would be somebody here within about 5 minutes. The other day when antifa was rioting downtown in Portland I was told 911 was not even sending police out. They were telling people you're on your own no, we don't have anybody to send. That is the reason the gun stores can't stay stocked with merchandise, neither guns or ammo.
We had a lot in common, i am also in my sixties and the country i live in now is so far removed from the one i grew up in. I always carried a pocket knife from a young age, a lot of kids did, you could buy them everywhere. A lot of people had guns, rabbit hunting was very popular, i could buy a Daisy BB gun from toy stores, i bought my first air rifle at 15, no licence required, you now have to go through every stage i mentioned in the previous post. We had what we called school cadets foe senior students held every Friday after school. You went to school on Friday in army uniform and practiced marching, discipline and went on bivouac camps to learn life and bush skills muck like Boy Scouts. BUT get this, at the start of the year you were give a gun, a ex army .303 converted to .22 short ammo, it was your responsibility for the year, and you took to and from school every Friday on bus, train or tram, imagine trying to do that today. On some Fridays they had target practice and gun safety, and you had to have your weapon in pristine condition at all times. We can have lock blade knives here, i have a few, but you cannot carry any knife in public, if you are stopped and searched you will be charged. I still carry one in my back pocket unless i am going somewhere where i may be searched or waived with a searching wand. We had a lot in common my friend, and our countries went to war together, and we still have a lot in common, times may have changed, but our generation has not. Hope this helps you get and idea on how we lived in previous times, very similar to your country.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:41 am
by orvet
That's really cool that we could grow up half a world away and have such similar experiences.
But it's sad though that we both experienced the downward spiral of our country and the quality of life we enjoyed as children.
Hopefully will have another chance to turn things around here!

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:35 am
by Meridian_Mike
orvet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:04 am
Is it this way and all the states are just the ones that have Democratic governors who are anti-gun?
Here is Mississippi, if we have anything going for us, it is the ease of getting a fire arm.
With a CCP, all you do is find what you want, fill out the "
all answers NO" questionnaire, Show them your CCP, they write the number on their paperwork and out the door you go with your firearm.
The CCP has a federal background check and fingerprinting included so that is good enough to "prove" you are not a criminal.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:54 am
by Doc B
cudgee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:43 am
orvet wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 6:15 am
That is interesting. I know you have laws in Australia against switchblades and I think locking blade or Assisted Opening knives. I think that's a bit sad , but if that's the rules that your people hope to live under, then I see nothing wrong with that.
The experience of most men my age in their 60s and older how to get different experience, I grew on a ranch, I always had a pocket knife in my pocket. Growing up in the 50s and 60s most boys had a pocket knife. I even remember a fourth grade school teacher Mrs Kern who instructed us boys to be sure we brought our pocket knives the next day and she would teach us how to play Mumbly Peg.
Guns were pretty much taken for granted also. Up through the sixties and into the 70s most pickups in southern Oregon had a gun rack in the back window. It was not uncommon to see a guy in high school who had a 22 rifle, shotgun or maybe a deer rifle even in the rifle rack of his pickup. Since Southern Oregon can get very hot it was not uncommon to see people leave their windows down even with their rifles in their pickups. Nobody thought anything of it comment was taken for granted but they would be left alone. We were taught us youngsters not to steal don't take something that doesn't belong to you and for the most part nobody did. And was until the late 70s and the full blossoming of the drug culture that we started hearing about people stealing guns.
I would frequent would carry a .22 revolver or rifle for protection against rattlesnakes. I have also encountered bears, Bobcats and coyotes Within about a mile our house. I understand there are also wolves in that area now.
Depending on where you live here in the US beiIg armed when you are out of doors in a rural area is not necessarily a bad thing!
So I have always taken guns and knives granted. They were tools that we used on a daily basis. At that point in my life I didn't know anyone who collected knives or guns. We certainly didn't who were poor folks and didn't have that much money.
Now the script is flipped, we have Governors and Mayors who will not support the police force, they're tying their hands and preventing them from doing their jobs. And used to be if we called the police with an emergency there would be somebody here within about 5 minutes. The other day when antifa was rioting downtown in Portland I was told 911 was not even sending police out. They were telling people you're on your own no, we don't have anybody to send. That is the reason the gun stores can't stay stocked with merchandise, neither guns or ammo.
We had a lot in common, i am also in my sixties and the country i live in now is so far removed from the one i grew up in. I always carried a pocket knife from a young age, a lot of kids did, you could buy them everywhere. A lot of people had guns, rabbit hunting was very popular, i could buy a Daisy BB gun from toy stores, i bought my first air rifle at 15, no licence required, you now have to go through every stage i mentioned in the previous post. We had what we called school cadets foe senior students held every Friday after school. You went to school on Friday in army uniform and practiced marching, discipline and went on bivouac camps to learn life and bush skills muck like Boy Scouts. BUT get this, at the start of the year you were give a gun, a ex army .303 converted to .22 short ammo, it was your responsibility for the year, and you took to and from school every Friday on bus, train or tram, imagine trying to do that today. On some Fridays they had target practice and gun safety, and you had to have your weapon in pristine condition at all times. We can have lock blade knives here, i have a few, but you cannot carry any knife in public, if you are stopped and searched you will be charged. I still carry one in my back pocket unless i am going somewhere where i may be searched or waived with a searching wand. We had a lot in common my friend, and our countries went to war together, and we still have a lot in common, times may have changed, but our generation has not. Hope this helps you get and idea on how we lived in previous times, very similar to your country.
Cudgee,
I too am of your era. When I was in High School, we were the Sam Houston Texans. Our mascot was a lanky looking, tall cowboy, wearing his "10 gallon" hat, gun belt and "six shooters". At lunch, most days...you could find a group of guys playing mumbleypeg in the courtyard. Once a year, we would have a "carnival" in the courtyard, with games and stuff. Then...somewhere during the fair, would be a "Gunfight", put on, by the students, with real six shooters, using black powder "blanks". I recently ran in to a graduate...who told me the guns were taken away from all the drawings,etc. Much less...any of the other things, we enjoyed, back in the day.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:07 pm
by fergusontd

I've carried a pocketknife for at least 65 years. When I drove Schoolbus I was told I couldn't carry one, whn I asked why the business manager told me a highschool student could take it away from me! I'm 6'2" 275 and a Navy vet, I told him I don't think so and told him he couldn't do it either. Discussion ended at that. ftd
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:11 pm
by Byrd
In Kansas with a CCP it's the same. Show you're lisence and off you go. The stores here are void of shotguns & handguns. Between Covid & BLM riots people are on edge. I was in Cabelas a couple weeks ago and they had few handguns and shotguns. They'd spread them out in the cases to make them look full. They were out of all common pistol ammo and shotgun shells. Glad I stocked up in the last few years.
Growing up in the 60's was the same. Every pickup had a rifle and shotgun in the window rack. As a boy I'd pack a lunch, round up my friend and lay my Mossberg .22 on the handlebars of my bike and head for the country to shoot and play around. If a kid did that today SWAT would be all over him.