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Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:01 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Sorry, incorrect. Too far East.
The company is still operating today but under a different name. This knife is marked with one of their house brands.
Ken
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:11 pm
by richard
Syracuse ?
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:16 pm
by Mumbleypeg
richard wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:11 pmSyracuse ?
Not Syracuse. Sorry.
Ken
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:00 pm
by kennedy knives
Hibbard Spencer & Bartlett Chicago, IL
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:13 pm
by Mumbleypeg
kennedy knives wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:00 pm
Hibbard Spencer & Bartlett Chicago, IL
Yes that’s the hardware distributor (actually it’s Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett & Company) but not the brand name on this knife. Similar to the KeenKutter brand at Shapleigh, this brand was used by HSB&Co. on tools as well as knives. So you’re close, but no cigar.
Ken
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:32 pm
by kennedy knives
OVB
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:39 pm
by richard
True value knife brand
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:44 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Nope. I think there are only about 4 or 5 choices but OVB isn’t the right one, nor is True Value. This brand name was used on tools, sporting goods, firearms, etc. It’s the name of another hardware firm that HSB&Co. acquired. The principal owner of that company became an officer of HSB&Co. The brand is his name, but spelled backwards.
I can’t give any more hints, save for spelling it out.
Ken
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:47 pm
by danno50
Revonoc?
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:58 pm
by Mumbleypeg
danno50 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:47 pmRevonoc?
Winner! Winner!
If you search online for “Rev-o-noc” you can find info about skates, rifles, shotguns, hand tools, and other items having the Rev-o-noc brand name, in addition to knives. Not sure if the brand name preceded the acquisition of Conover’s company and was carried forward by HSB, or if they created it after the acquisition.
Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett & Company became known as TrueValue in 1960. Prior to that name change TrueValue was one of the HSB trade names.
Dan, you’re up!
Ken
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:03 pm
by danno50
My camera battery is stone cold dead. Just plugged it in and will post one as soon as there is enough juice in the battery.
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:24 pm
by danno50
This one is fairly obscure, I believe? Trademark used by a hardware company circa 1939. Sturdy, but fairly cheaply made. Plastic handles and bolsters stamped out of the liners.
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:37 pm
by richard
Colonial ?
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:11 am
by 1967redrider
Reminds me of some Syracuse knives I have, but I don't think that's the right answer. However, I'm going with it.
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:03 am
by danno50
richard wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:37 pmColonial ?
Nope
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 3:04 am
by danno50
1967redrider wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:11 am
Reminds me of some Syracuse knives I have, but I don't think that's the right answer. However, I'm going with it.
Good guess, but nope.
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:08 pm
by kennedy knives
Schrade

Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:13 pm
by just bob
Van Camp ?
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:25 pm
by Mumbleypeg
Handle covers appear similar to a knife I have that is stamped LACLEDE, which IIRC was a house brand of E.C. Simmons, before they were acquired by Shapleigh.
Since you said it’s a hardware company brand, I’m going with LACLEDE.
Ken
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:41 pm
by danno50
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:41 pm
by danno50
just bob wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:13 pm
Van Camp ?
Nope, not Van Camp
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:48 pm
by danno50
Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:25 pm
Handle covers appear similar to a knife I have that is stamped LACLEDE, which IIRC was a house brand of E.C. Simmons, before they were acquired by Shapleigh.
Since you said it’s a hardware company brand, I’m going with LACLEDE.
Ken
Ken, , good guess. It is an E.C. Simmons house brand, but not LACLEDE. Goins lists quite a few fairly obsure names as house brands of E.C. Simmons. I believe that the knife I posted is one of the most obscure ones. It is not included in the listing in Goins under Simmons, but is listed as a Simmons brand under its own name. This may not have been a fair one to post, I have never seen another example posted anywhere. Maybe Ray, knife7knut has a couple?
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:23 pm
by Mumbleypeg
danno50 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:48 pm
Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 5:25 pm
Handle covers appear similar to a knife I have that is stamped LACLEDE, which IIRC was a house brand of E.C. Simmons, before they were acquired by Shapleigh.
Since you said it’s a hardware company brand, I’m going with LACLEDE.
Ken
Ken, , good guess. It is an E.C. Simmons house brand, but not LACLEDE. Goins lists quite a few fairly obsure names as house brands of E.C. Simmons. I believe that the knife I posted is one of the most obscure ones. It is not included in the listing in Goins under Simmons, but is listed as a Simmons brand under its own name. This may not have been a fair one to post, I have never seen another example posted anywhere. Maybe Ray, knife7knut has a couple?
I don’t think
Goins’ has LACLEDE listed either. Whatever it is, if anybody else has one (or more) it’s Ray.
Goins’ says American Ace was a trademark owned by Simmons. I’ll take a long shot on that.
Ken
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:49 pm
by richard
Chipaway
Re: Mystery Knife Game
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:51 pm
by danno50
Nope, not American Ace or Chipaway. Ken, your are correct, I just looked and Goins does not list LACLEDE either.
If no one gets this by tomorrow, maybe I should reveal it and post another knife??