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Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:15 pm
by orvet
OC, the XLNT stamp was used by Kastor and is a clever abbreviation for EXCELLENT.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:18 pm
by gsmith7158
I can't believe it's been over a year since I posted anything in this fine thread. Getting old and lazy I guess. Here are a few.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:28 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
orvet wrote:OC, the XLNT stamp was used by Kastor and is a clever abbreviation for EXCELLENT.
Thanks Dale. I just wasn't reading the markings phonetically enough. LOL
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:00 pm
by orvet
Greg,
I love those first two bone-handled Empires!

Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:19 pm
by gsmith7158
orvet wrote:Greg,
I love those first two bone-handled Empires!

Thanks Dale! It's hard to beat that Empire jigged bone. It's definitely a favorite of mine.

Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:28 pm
by Jacknifeben
Very old Lockback , Stag, whittler He is in the history book.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:34 pm
by Jacknifeben
Another unusual WHITTLER with a punch blade, slanted and pinched bolsters, three back springs, and etched.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:41 pm
by Ivoryman
Fabulous Ben, great vintage stuff.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:51 pm
by Jacknifeben
How about a 32734 gunstock WHITTLER with a spey blade stamped FOR CUTTING FLESH ONLY?
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:21 am
by Tsar Bomba
doglegg wrote:Just for comparison sake, GEC 57, Case 6355 and Schatt and Morgen 43 1/2. The 57 is the smallest and the 431/2 slightly the largest. The Case is the smoothest. All 3 great knives.DSCN4072.JPGDSCN4073.JPG
Three incredible whittlers, doglegg!

Just for pedantry's sake, and to help in identifying the knives, by those photos I'm about 85% sure that the 6355 is actually a Case Classics whittler built by Queen on the same frame as that sweet S&M. I suspect if you measured the two they'd be real close in every way. The "real" Case seahorse whittler seems to have a more slender and serpentine frame than the stouter Queen/CC/S&M version, stance of the Wharnie blade when opened is also significantly different, different secondary blade profiles, etc. I grabbed a similar photo of one of my own Cases and eyeballed them bolster-to-bolster so you can see the differences.
I don't have any of those sweet Queens or a GEC whittler (yet) to do a size comparison, sadly. The Case is a hair over 4" closed.
OLDE CUTLER wrote:I picked up this bone handled whittler over the weekend. It is marked A. W. Wadsworth & Son Germany. It has the usual whittler layout with the 3 blades and tapered back, but this one has a double sided file in place of one of the smaller pen blades. Also stamped on the back of the blades is a large X with the letters X over L N over T stamped within the large X. Anyone familiar with what this means?
Dale covered the origin and meaning of the mark. I just want to use this opportunity to show off my Wadsworth XLNT Barlow.
Jacknifeben wrote:Very old Lockback , Stag, whittler He is in the history book.
Jacknifeben wrote:Another unusual WHITTLER with a punch blade, slanted and pinched bolsters, three back springs, and etched.
Jacknifeben wrote:How about a 32734 gunstock WHITTLER with a spey blade stamped FOR CUTTING FLESH ONLY?
My friend, you come up with some ridiculous knives. I am in awe.

Re: The whittler page
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:19 am
by Jacknifeben
When you have been collecting knives as long as me I had some advantages. There not as many old knives out there any more.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:40 am
by doglegg
Tsar Bomba wrote:doglegg wrote:Just for comparison sake, GEC 57, Case 6355 and Schatt and Morgen 43 1/2. The 57 is the smallest and the 431/2 slightly the largest. The Case is the smoothest. All 3 great knives.DSCN4072.JPGDSCN4073.JPG
Three incredible whittlers, doglegg!

Just for pedantry's sake, and to help in identifying the knives, by those photos I'm about 85% sure that the 6355 is actually a Case Classics whittler built by Queen on the same frame as that sweet S&M. I suspect if you measured the two they'd be real close in every way. The "real" Case seahorse whittler seems to have a more slender and serpentine frame than the stouter Queen/CC/S&M version, stance of the Wharnie blade when opened is also significantly different, different secondary blade profiles, etc. I grabbed a similar photo of one of my own Cases and eyeballed them bolster-to-bolster so you can see the differences.
whittlers.jpg
I don't have any of those sweet Queens or a GEC whittler (yet) to do a size comparison, sadly. The Case is a hair over 4" closed.
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OLDE CUTLER wrote:I picked up this bone handled whittler over the weekend. It is marked A. W. Wadsworth & Son Germany. It has the usual whittler layout with the 3 blades and tapered back, but this one has a double sided file in place of one of the smaller pen blades. Also stamped on the back of the blades is a large X with the letters X over L N over T stamped within the large X. Anyone familiar with what this means?
Dale covered the origin and meaning of the mark. I just want to use this opportunity to show off my Wadsworth XLNT Barlow.
xlntbarlow.jpg
Jacknifeben wrote:Very old Lockback , Stag, whittler He is in the history book.
Jacknifeben wrote:Another unusual WHITTLER with a punch blade, slanted and pinched bolsters, three back springs, and etched.
Jacknifeben wrote:How about a 32734 gunstock WHITTLER with a spey blade stamped FOR CUTTING FLESH ONLY?
My friend, you come up with some ridiculous knives. I am in awe.

It is a Case Classic, Tony. Indeed upon closer inspection you are right on the S&M and the Case Classic. and the Seahorse is a more delicate knife. Thanks.

Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 4:36 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
I found these two whittlers at a flea market down in Iowa over the weekend. Neither of them are pristine, but usable.
Miller Brothers 3 3/4" with tapered back, and either rosewood or ebony screw retained handles.
Hibbard, Spencer, and Bartlett -OVB, 3 5/16" whittler, tapered back, with MOP handles. Has a couple of handle chips missing, but still a usable little knife. One of the small blades has a double sided file instead of the usual pen blade. There is a little bit of the OVB blade etch remaining on the master blade. Not real choice, but I couldn't pass on it for $5.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 7:35 pm
by doglegg
Very knice OC, along with the knives from the other post.

Re: The whittler page
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:01 am
by OLDE CUTLER
I don't know what to make of this whittler. There is no tang stamp on the two larger blades, only on the awl blade is there a stamp, "Paxton & Gallagher Omaha", but I am not sure if that blade belongs to this knife. I bought this at a flea market over the weekend and am wondering if the awl blade has replaced a broken blade. It is a sleeveboard whittler, bone handled, nickle silver bolster with steel pins, brass liners, 3 5/8" overall closed length. The usual whittler pattern is followed, the two smaller blades each have their own springs, with the main blade using both of the springs. The awl has a matchstrike pull. There is no tapered center divider. I am questioning if it is original with the blades the way they are now ?
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:07 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
All of us NFL fans are familiar with the phrase "Upon further review". I am using that phrase here after spending some time looking at the inside with a good light and a loupe, and have come to the conclusion that the Paxton & Gallagher whittler that I pictured above is original. It has an offset bend in the awl that pairs with a spacer at the rear, and the spacer between the two smaller blades is also accounted for. I had thought that because the original steel pins were protruding slightly that it may have been apart. But I think the knife had gotten loose and someone hammered on the steel pins without a slacker in an attempt to tighten it up. The double spring pressure on the master blade sure makes it hard to open, but it is still kind of a neat old knife.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:14 pm
by Tsar Bomba
Definitely a rarity, I have never even encountered that stamp/maker and I certainly have never seen an old whittler with a punch on it before.
I guess that's another interpretation of a "carpenter's whittler" if you want to put a name on it.,

Re: The whittler page
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:32 pm
by sunknife
I really like the looks of that sleeveboard whittler OC. Love the jigging pattern, bone color and shield shape.... classic styling.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:45 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
I picked up this whittler today at a local pawn shop for a few bucks. It is an American Shear & Knife Co. 4 1/4" tapered back. Unfortunately it has a lot of pitting on the blades and one of the pen blades is tipped, but it snaps like a bear trap on all three blades, handles are good ebony, and the shield is really nice. The blades are full, so I will sharpen it up and carry it. Goins says American Shear & Knife was from 1851-1911.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:55 pm
by Dinadan
OLDE CUTLER wrote:I picked up this whittler today at a local pawn shop for a few bucks. It is an American Shear & Knife Co. 4 1/4" tapered back. Unfortunately it has a lot of pitting on the blades and one of the pen blades is tipped, but it snaps like a bear trap on all three blades, handles are good ebony, and the shield is really nice. The blades are full, so I will sharpen it up and carry it. Goins says American Shear & Knife was from 1851-1911.
That is a very nice old knife! I would call that pitting a very minor issue. Grind the tipped blade into a coping blade and it will be better than new.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:21 am
by doglegg
OC, I like the looks of that old knife even with its scars.

Re: The whittler page
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:03 pm
by wlf
I believe there is a thread for this manufacturer and that one I expect would be most welcome OC.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:58 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
wlf wrote:I believe there is a thread for this manufacturer and that one I expect would be most welcome OC.
Thanks, I will post it there too.
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:32 pm
by Ivoryman
Yeller Case
Re: The whittler page
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:07 pm
by doglegg
Iman, you have a keeper there. Great scales and classic design.
