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Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:00 pm
by BWT
That’s some nice looking stockmans wannadoto
I posted this Schrade in another thread, but found this stockman thread, so I moved it over here.
Picked this up last week from Roger, really like the pick bone! Thanks for looking and your comments.
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:14 pm
by wlf
BWT wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:00 pm
That’s some nice looking stockmans wannadoto
I posted this Schrade in another thread, but found this stockman thread, so I moved it over here.
Picked this up last week from Roger, really like the pick bone! Thanks for looking and your comments.
My favorite bone too Bill .
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 10:48 pm
by BWT
Thanks Lyle

Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:35 pm
by Ivoryman
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:38 pm
by BWT
Very nice Iman

Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:24 am
by Thomasg

- Western Boulder Colorado
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:27 am
by Thomasg

- New York knife co (hammer brand )

- New York knife co.(hammer brand )
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:46 am
by FRJ
I sure like those Western packers your showing there.
That New York Hammer is really nice too.
Good show!
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:19 am
by Jacknifeben
Think this knife was made in about 1910 buy Napanoch for Jack Knife Ben.
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:35 pm
by wlf
Nice man.
Very nice showing Thomas, I really like a lot of those celluloid.
As usual a terrific knife D.
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:19 pm
by Thomasg
treefarmer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:05 pm
I have a question! Is there a difference in the "stockman" pattern and the "cattleman" pattern? For some reason I keep thinking the stockman has the 3 blades like a Case 6375 but when a knife shows up with an awl or punch it should be called a "cattleman". The knife in the OP is probably a #49 Queen but the 2nd post is a beautiful knife with a punch. This "rang my bell" and I've been wondering about it, is there a difference or is it what the owner prefers to call it? The awl would be to repair leather, thus cowboy, cow hunter or cattle man....

?
Treefarmer
A cowboy once told me that a knife without a punch blade is for goat ,sheep herders and pig farmers .
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:18 am
by Thomasg
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 5:46 am
by Wannadotoo
Thomasg wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:18 am
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Love the scales....celluloid?
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:25 pm
by Thomasg
Yes the scales are celluloid. The shield has the initials R W. Nicely in graved also . The knife has been well kept and in great shape considering it came out in the western states catalog in 1931 .
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:19 pm
by Mumbleypeg
You have some great examples of "butter and molasses” celluloid!
Ken
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:12 pm
by treefarmer
Thomasg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:19 pm
treefarmer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:05 pm
I have a question! Is there a difference in the "stockman" pattern and the "cattleman" pattern? For some reason I keep thinking the stockman has the 3 blades like a Case 6375 but when a knife shows up with an awl or punch it should be called a "cattleman". The knife in the OP is probably a #49 Queen but the 2nd post is a beautiful knife with a punch. This "rang my bell" and I've been wondering about it, is there a difference or is it what the owner prefers to call it? The awl would be to repair leather, thus cowboy, cow hunter or cattle man....

?
Treefarmer
A cowboy once told me that a knife without a punch blade is for goat ,sheep herders and pig farmers .
Just a casual observation of this post that Thomasg had pulled from the past: I realized from my question back in 2016, I believe I've learned a bit more about knife patterns. Setting aside the blade comparisons between stockman and cattleman/cattle pattern, the big difference has to do with the shape of the frame. I feel confident in saying an equal end frame can be referred to as a cattle knife and a serpentine framed knife with the same blade configuration is a Stockman. Then the same equal end frame can have a bail/shackle and a can opener, and it becomes a scout/camp knife.
An interesting and sometimes confusing hobby we are in.
Treefarmer
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:09 am
by Thomasg
treefarmer wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:12 pm
Thomasg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:19 pm
treefarmer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:05 pm
I have a question! Is there a difference in the "stockman" pattern and the "cattleman" pattern? For some reason I keep thinking the stockman has the 3 blades like a Case 6375 but when a knife shows up with an awl or punch it should be called a "cattleman". The knife in the OP is probably a #49 Queen but the 2nd post is a beautiful knife with a punch. This "rang my bell" and I've been wondering about it, is there a difference or is it what the owner prefers to call it? The awl would be to repair leather, thus cowboy, cow hunter or cattle man....

?
Treefarmer
A cowboy once told me that a knife without a punch blade is for goat ,sheep herders and pig farmers .
Just a casual observation of this post that Thomasg had pulled from the past: I realized from my question back in 2016, I believe I've learned a bit more about knife patterns. Setting aside the blade comparisons between stockman and cattleman/cattle pattern, the big difference has to do with the shape of the frame. I feel confident in saying an equal end frame can be referred to as a cattle knife and a serpentine framed knife with the same blade configuration is a Stockman. Then the same equal end frame can have a bail/shackle and a can opener, and it becomes a scout/camp knife.
An interesting and sometimes confusing hobby we are in.
Treefarmer

- Page 323 Sargents 3rd edition

- Pal stock knife

- Page 325 Sargents 3rd edition

- PAl cattle knife
I noticed in the pal knifes add from way back then that they used just a gender neutral descriptions (stock knife) ,(cattle knife)) .we’re they being politically correct way back then in their marketing. ? Was the word stockman used by companies to market a specific knife model or was man added to the end of stock as descriptions from the customer s lingo .you are correct treefarmer .a interesting sometimes confusing hobby we are in!
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:41 am
by Wannadotoo
Here's my latest project knife....I sent a vintage Queen to some folks in Michigan for beautiful custom scales
Petoskey stone!
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:35 am
by doglegg
Lovely
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:51 am
by Wannadotoo
Wannadotoo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:41 am
Here's my latest project knife....I sent a vintage Queen to some folks in Michigan for beautiful custom scales
Petoskey stone!
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:54 pm
by 313 Mike
Wannadotoo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:41 am
Here's my latest project knife....I sent a vintage Queen to some folks in Michigan for beautiful custom scales
Petoskey stone!
That is a beautiful material.
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:07 am
by Wannadotoo
Newest Ebay find...Shumate cutlery
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:09 am
by Wannadotoo
zed6309 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:32 am
Love stockmans and are pretty much my daily carry, i picked up this lovely Imperial frontier senior stockman yesterday at a market, its still got its factory edges and looks like someone added these inlaid scrimshaw panels
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Thats a beauty!!!!
Re: Old Stockman Knives
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:03 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Wannadotoo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:07 am
Newest.....
Would you please post a picture with all three blades open.