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Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:17 am
by Joe Dirt
The knife measures a tad over 3 3/8" with brass liners, steel pins, and celluloid handles.
The shield is thru pinned. The stamp is "C K C" in a rectangle with the corners squared off.
Back spring on master is .100 "
Bolsters are iron.

It looks as if someone has media blasted the blades... ::uc::

...... Joe

Edit: to add "iron bolsters" to description

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:27 am
by Joe Dirt
Part of the Colonial information from Mr. Goins` Encyclopedia of Cutlery Markings.

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:39 am
by junebug
thanks fer postin that, JOE ::tu:: .....

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:20 pm
by Bonfire bob
Nice work Joe, and spot on I might add!! ::ds:: ::ds::
I have NEVER in my life seen that old Colonial logo on a tang of ANY knife!!
1926 for this logo.....this is one of the very first jack knives that Colonial ever
produced, and in my opinion "msteele 6" is VERY valuable!!
I would give you $ 100.00 for it if I had the money!!
Here's the same logo in a company letter head from years ago.....
Don't sell this knife please!! It could be very well an important part of history!!
We would all love to see multiple pics of this baby, if you could.....
Can you also send this pic and tang stamp pic to my e-mail : [email protected]..
Here's the letter head..
Bob P. Completely blown away!!!! CKCo... ::woot:: ::woot::

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:03 am
by Joe Dirt
Another oldie stamp on a 3 5/8" barlow. "CKCo" ::groove::
Same construction as the jack knife.

.... Joe

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:45 pm
by Bonfire bob
WOW Joe!! What a pair of beautie's!! Both 1926, 1927 production and I have no
idea how many were made. These are two of the oldest and most valuable Colonial's I've ever seen.. :wink: :wink:
Are you sure those bolster's are iron?? They have an Aluminum apperance but they
must be NS...If they were iron, they would be more pitted?? What are your thoughts pal..
You have the advantage of holding them and carefully inspecting them, as I would.. ::nod::
Bob P. CKCo....

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:42 pm
by Joe Dirt
Iron bolsters for sure, Bobby, there just pit free ::nod:: ... BUT both have NS pins!

... Joe

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:01 am
by bdev
Just got this serpentine jack. 3 1/4", main blade stamped COLONIAL PROV. R.I. PAT. PEND. , pen blade stamped U.S.A.
More incoming and I'll post once I receive them.
Bruno.

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:28 pm
by knifetime
Very nice Joe . Good knife bd.

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:38 am
by Joe Dirt
Thanks, knifetime! I have been tempted to put the Barlow in my pocket. ::nod::

bdev, that's a nice clean lil knife! Also, I like the Colonial figurine too. Makes for a nice Colonial knife prop! ::tu::

This blister pack has been laying around for the last year... just now thought about it and took a pic to put in my images with the other blister packs.
Someone posted one with the scalloped blade like it in the TL-29 thread a while back - think it had the glow-in-the-dark
handles, Bobby's favorite handle material ::paranoid:: , but this is the first I've seen with the "Day-Glow" orange handle.

..... Joe

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:32 pm
by Bonfire bob
Hello Bruno, nice little # 44, 2 blade medium jacknife. Here's one for the books also.
They came in imitation plastic stag, red, yellow, white sky blue, black... ::mdm::
AND we made millions of them...back then, in the 60's and 70's, for a buck or two, you had
a nice strong, American made pocket knife...and if you lost it, go buy another one...who cares!!! ::shrug::
The amazing thing to me is that so many of them are out there still working!

Joe has a classic part of a very successful line called the "Hunter Orange" line, consisting of four knives originally : #2644, #1200, #2902, and a 4" lockback...
Yours Joe is a # 810, 1" Scalloped blade Utility knife.. (actually a #2902 Electrian),,,
The Orange Hunter line...oook...Nice knife though!!! ::nod::
Bob P.., Orange Hunter Lover..aarrgg... ::doh::

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:51 pm
by bdev
Hi Bob.....got the book today, thanks for the extras.
I've got some more knives on the way.
A Swiss Master multi blade, one of those bronze touring car single blades (new old stock), a Ranger 2 3/4" 2 blade pen knife (New old stock), 2 blade fish knife, a 2 blade jack - plastic stag, and an ad knife (2 blade - clip and cap lifter).
I'll post pics once I receive all of them.

Bruno

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:26 am
by bdev
Here's three more I just received.
A 5" two blade fish knife, Car knife, Swiss Master Series.
What was the correct name for the car knife? Was the Swiss knife called a utility knife or did it have another name?

Thanks.

There's more incoming....I'll post pics soon.

Bruno

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:57 pm
by Bonfire bob
Nice triple play!! ::tu::
The old Swiss Master utility on top is our #1405; about 80's production.
The Antique Car was just that! Casted, antique finish and used for Ad Specialty
with blade etchings, most of the time...
Our famous # S 409 F, or # 410 was a long time favorite.. this one could be late 70's..
There's no bail hole on the but end of the bolster?? If the hole is there but
the bail is missing, I can hook you up! ::nod::
Nice little bunch buddy...
Bob P.

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:41 pm
by gino
I came across two Colonial hobo knives that are quite different if you look closely.
Sorry for the crappy pics ;)

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:20 pm
by TripleF
Purty cool gino!!
The long pull is from the 60's, and the shorter pull is more modern

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:05 pm
by Bonfire bob
Gino man, these I love and you'ved helped me more than you know by showing several pics from all angles; just as if it were in my hands! ::ds:: Good job!! And now I'll say why...

These are identical cat. #s 2644 Camper's Utility....but endured many changes through the years..to me, the top one is clearly the older of the pair. Late 60's I'm thinking...
The steel in this one is a bit thicker, I'm thinking 1075 steel and .075 thick; the second one looks like .060 to me. The light brown 60's one also has been polished bolster's; that bright hande edge tells us that. The fork tongs are also older on it, AND we have an old long pull.... ::sneaky::

The second one or #2 has thinner blades and has a third spring!! This middle or third spring supports the pocket blade alone! They also added another brass cut scale..
Somewhere along the line they felt because of the fork and spoon tang bends, they needed more room inside the knife and they provided for it! This also added more "beef" and strenght to it.. ::nod:: ::nod:: (grandpa Fred must have still been alive)...the fork and spoon bend's are sharper, and allow a small cut in the handle rather than a big hole. Let's see, what did I miss??
The second one was probably re-tooled and made in the mid to late 70's...
Nice find buddy AND nice pic's ::groove:: They allow me to give my most detailed age and production changes that happened through the years..
Bob. P. CKCo...nice job.. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:29 pm
by knifetime
I likem Gino. They are one of my favorite Colonial knives to find. I grab up every one I can of the little hobos they are a great knife. ::tu::

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:19 pm
by gino
Thanks Bobby! I appreciate the info ::nod:: ;)

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:55 pm
by bdev
Here are two more I just received.
I believe the serpentine jack is a #44. The blades are a little spotty but it's a nice tight knife.
The Ranger pen knife is New Old Stock and is 2 3/4". A very well made knife. ::tu::

I just love huntin' for these little gems. :D

Bruno

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:33 pm
by Bonfire bob
Nice pair! The top one we've gone over before: always a nice strong jack.. :wink:
AND I see you've picked yourself up a little # 912 Ranger..the three blades were a 913..
Nice score again! ! ::tu::

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:22 am
by junebug
i have hand a hand full of COLONIALS......but this is my 1st since before i was a TEEN ::facepalm:: ::super_happy::
so kinda like a brand new THANG to me........i DIG this scout/utility pattern FOREST MASTER

tang stamp : COLONIAL-----over----- PROV USA
3 springs


(just got my light box set-up(TESTING NOW) so will get pics of all blades open ASAP ::tu:: )

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:49 pm
by mickeyevans
not sure if anyone as shown this knife
missing bail and substantial crack made it cost 99 cents
the Wards Electrician is crack free with the bail and cost $5
the blades in both work great with same amount of use and the Wards is not that much higher quality than the Colonial, wonder what the price difference was new?

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:20 pm
by knifetime
junebug wrote:i have hand a hand full of COLONIALS......but this is my 1st since before i was a TEEN ::facepalm:: ::super_happy::
so kinda like a brand new THANG to me........i DIG this scout/utility pattern FOREST MASTER

tang stamp : COLONIAL-----over----- PROV USA
3 springs


(just got my light box set-up(TESTING NOW) so will get pics of all blades open ASAP ::tu:: )
Hey Josh is the punch not on that one. If so I have one just like it and that would be only the 2nd one I have ever saw with no punch.

Re: Now we have a Colonial thread,Show'em

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:29 pm
by Bonfire bob
Greetings gents; another Colonial mystery is bestowed upon us! ::hmm::
It's our old # 1200 Forest Master and for some reason, some were made without the belt punch that is MIA and what Joe is talking about. ::shrug:: No clue!
I would love to see a side view Josh because I can't determine for sure if it's a shell or solid NS bolster construction..that would meen it's older but it has a newer nail mark and not a long pull..mmmmm....I still date this one around 60's production just from the wear.

Now my friend Mickey has an antique # 2902, Electritian's knife with solid hard wood handles...Solid pin construction with IRON bolster's!! It's old buddy..crued hand peened rivets and look next to the butt assembly rivet, there's another pin-on rivet!! ::hmm::
I'm thinking late 30's on this baby..maybe earlier!! ::uc::

Nice job guys and gals..(if applicable) I don't want to leave our female collectors
unrecognized.. ::handshake::
Bobby P. (I wounder what Colonial collector's did before I showed up)..!! ::teary_eyes::