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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:22 am
by Colonel26
cudgee wrote:Colonel26 wrote:We caught a vandal red footed in the act of vandalizing my barn. I’m glad to report that he is no longer in the vandalizing business thanks to the Shockwave.
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What is a red footed?

It was my sad excuse for a tongue in cheek play on an American expression. To catch someone red handed means to have caught them in the act. Since a whistle pig, aka groundhog, doesn’t have hands........
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:39 am
by treefarmer
Hey Wade, I too was fixin’ to ask what sort of critter was in the Haveaheart trap? We don’t have them in Florida.
Looks like a fine piece for defending against most all critters large or small.
Treefarmer
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:50 am
by Colonel26
treefarmer wrote:Hey Wade, I too was fixin’ to ask what sort of critter was in the Haveaheart trap? We don’t have them in Florida.
Looks like a fine piece for defending against most all critters large or small.
Treefarmer
TF, that’s a bona fide Kentucky groundhog. Kinda cute critters, good eating according to the old timers, too. They’re strictly vegetarians and can destroy an acre of corn or soy beans or a garden in just a minute.
They dig borrows and live underground. They leave holes in the field, and even worse will destroy a barn by filling it with holes. They can destroy a house too by digging under the foundation and then when the hole collapses the foundation crumbles in that spot. This one had started a tunnel along side the foundation of my barn, on the inside.
In short, the cute, furry little critters need to die.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:04 am
by Waukonda
I can verify that, yes, a groundhog is good eating. I had a friend growing up many years ago, who had a mixed breed dog (had to have some Terrier blood) that loved to dig out and fight groundhogs. Our idea of an entertainment was to take his dog out along RR tracks or old barns, wherever we could find groundhogs and watch ol' Rocky go to work. We would plug the escape hole and wait for the dog to dig the animal out and the fight to ensue, Rocky was undefeated. One day we decided to clean and eat one, not bad tasting at all, you just gotta make sure the scent glands are removed. This is supposed to be a gun thread, didn't mean to hijack it. I will say that the Shockwave looks to be a more efficient and less strenuous method.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:18 am
by Colonel26
Waukonda wrote:I can verify that, yes, a groundhog is good eating. I had a friend growing up many years ago, who had a mixed breed dog (had to have some Terrier blood) that loved to dig out and fight groundhogs. Our idea of an entertainment was to take his dog out along RR tracks or old barns, wherever we could find groundhogs and watch ol' Rocky go to work. We would plug the escape hole and wait for the dog to dig the animal out and the fight to ensue, Rocky was undefeated. One day we decided to clean and eat one, not bad tasting at all, you just gotta make sure the scent glands are removed. This is supposed to be a gun thread, didn't mean to hijack it. I will say that the Shockwave looks to be a more efficient and less strenuous method.
Ike you could have made money with that dog here back in the day. Grain farmers, when I was a kid, paid bounties for groundhogs killed on their place.
The coyotes just about wiped them out for several years. But they’ve made a comeback for sure.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:24 am
by cudgee
Colonel26 wrote:cudgee wrote:Colonel26 wrote:We caught a vandal red footed in the act of vandalizing my barn. I’m glad to report that he is no longer in the vandalizing business thanks to the Shockwave.
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What is a red footed?

It was my sad excuse for a tongue in cheek play on an American expression. To catch someone red handed means to have caught them in the act. Since a whistle pig, aka groundhog, doesn’t have hands........
That was a good "gotch Ya". i do like a play on words and that was a good un.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:16 am
by Mumbleypeg
Paladin wrote:Colonel26 wrote:Very nice Ray. I shot a friend’s Sig 1911 officer size 45 once and it was smooth as butter. I bet your 22 is the same.
I have shot that one and I was convinced that it would be punishing to the hand to fire it, considering the reduced size. I couldn't have been more wrong. It is an amazing piece and like you say, smooth as butter.
Ray
I believe the .45 round should get a lot of the credit. People tend to think that because of its size it should be punishing to shoot but my experience is the opposite. In fact my dad taught me to shoot a pistol using a .45 1911A because it was so easy to shoot. Of course an ergonomically well designed firearm helps too. My M&P Shield 45 is a small handgun but it shoots like a dream - better than my Shield 9mm IMHO. The pistols themselves are nearly identical.
Ken
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:22 am
by WillyCamaro
For a second there Wade, I thought that was a small wolverine...
I wouldn't get within 10 feet of that cage if it was...let em have led baby!
I did read up awhile ago that the shockwave was a perty good self-defence shotgun too, least she don't kick like a mule.
That 1911 looks sweet, .22 perfect for target practice and self defence. If not for that, a least ammo is cheap as chips

. Would love to own a 1911 or 2, sadly can't do to heath issues

. At least airgun pistols are up for grabs...especially the Tanflaglio Witness replica

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Accurate down to the last detail to the original WWII 1911 A1. Shoots around 400fps with 4.5mm bb's, punches 1 1/2" -2" groups at 30ft (they say). Or the sig sauer spartan 4.5mm, or the sig sauer p20, or the ….
So many guns, so little money ….
I really need to stop having so many hobbies ….
Anyway, real fun stuff guys

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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:29 am
by Colonel26
Mumbleypeg wrote:Paladin wrote:Colonel26 wrote:Very nice Ray. I shot a friend’s Sig 1911 officer size 45 once and it was smooth as butter. I bet your 22 is the same.
I have shot that one and I was convinced that it would be punishing to the hand to fire it, considering the reduced size. I couldn't have been more wrong. It is an amazing piece and like you say, smooth as butter.
Ray
I believe the .45 round should get a lot of the credit. People tend to think that because of its size it should be punishing to shoot but my experience is the opposite. In fact my dad taught me to shoot a pistol using a .45 1911A because it was so easy to shoot. Of course an ergonomically well designed firearm helps too. My M&P Shield 45 is a small handgun but it shoots like a dream - better than my Shield 9mm IMHO. The pistols themselves are nearly identical.
Ken
Very true Ken. My oldest two boys, 14 and 12, have been shooting my 1911’s for 4 or 5 years now. Recoil has never been an issue. But then again they’re like I was at that age (and still am). They’d shoot about anything one time just to get to pull the trigger.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:41 am
by cudgee
WillyCamaro wrote:For a second there Wade, I thought that was a small wolverine...
I wouldn't get within 10 feet of that cage if it was...let em have led baby!
I did read up awhile ago that the shockwave was a perty good self-defence shotgun too, least she don't kick like a mule.
That 1911 looks sweet, .22 perfect for target practice and self defence. If not for that, a least ammo is cheap as chips

. Would love to own a 1911 or 2, sadly can't do to heath issues

. At least airgun pistols are up for grabs...especially the Tanflaglio Witness replica

.
Accurate down to the last detail to the original WWII 1911 A1. Shoots around 400fps with 4.5mm bb's, punches 1 1/2" -2" groups at 30ft (they say). Or the sig sauer spartan 4.5mm, or the sig sauer p20, or the ….
So many guns, so little money ….
I really need to stop having so many hobbies ….
Anyway, real fun stuff guys

.
" i really need to stop having so many hobbies" . No you don't my friend, make the most of it, according to the experts, we have only 11 more years before the end of the planet.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:53 am
by WillyCamaro
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:44 am
by jerryd6818
The 1911 .45 is also my favorite. Have you ever shot a S&W 500 Magnum? My ex-S-I-L bought one and let me shoot it. After I pulled the trigger for the third time, the fun was all done.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:02 pm
by peanut740
Colonel26 wrote:Waukonda wrote:I can verify that, yes, a groundhog is good eating. I had a friend growing up many years ago, who had a mixed breed dog (had to have some Terrier blood) that loved to dig out and fight groundhogs. Our idea of an entertainment was to take his dog out along RR tracks or old barns, wherever we could find groundhogs and watch ol' Rocky go to work. We would plug the escape hole and wait for the dog to dig the animal out and the fight to ensue, Rocky was undefeated. One day we decided to clean and eat one, not bad tasting at all, you just gotta make sure the scent glands are removed. This is supposed to be a gun thread, didn't mean to hijack it. I will say that the Shockwave looks to be a more efficient and less strenuous method.
Ike you could have made money with that dog here back in the day. Grain farmers, when I was a kid, paid bounties for groundhogs killed on their place.
The coyotes just about wiped them out for several years. But they’ve made a comeback for sure.
Same here in Southern Ohio Wade.Groundhogs learned to live in the brush and not out in the open after we got coyotes.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:50 pm
by Quick Steel
For too few years, while its founder was still alive, Para-Ordinance made some superlative .45s. I had their Companion, a mid-size model. In terms of perceived recoil I found it softer than .40 caliber and even milder than some hot .9mms.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:30 pm
by Colonel26
Quick Steel wrote:For too few years, while its founder was still alive, Para-Ordinance made some superlative .45s. I had their Companion, a mid-size model. In terms of perceived recoil I found it softer than .40 caliber and even milder than some hot .9mms.
I’ve never been a fan of the recoil of the .40, the 45 is like a firm handshake from an old friend.
jerryd6818 wrote:The 1911 .45 is also my favorite. Have you ever shot a S&W 500 Magnum? My ex-S-I-L bought one and let me shoot it. After I pulled the trigger for the third time, the fun was all done.
Cuz, I’ve never shot one, but I watched a slow motion video of one being shot. You could see the recoil cause his arm to wave, like the bone itself was whipping. That sort of spited me on trying one.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:45 am
by jerryd6818
I can tell you for sure, Cuz. It HURTS!!!
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:05 am
by TwoFlowersLuggage
I don't like handgun recoil and I've never understood why anyone would. I would also MUCH prefer shooting a .45 over either a .40 or 9mm. The .45 just seems to be a much more controllable "shove" while .40 and 9mm seem (to me) to be more of a "jarring smack". I have no doubt it is the difference in momentum transfer of a "big & slow" vs "small & fast" object.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:20 am
by Quick Steel
Also the weight of a steel .45 will better absorb/reduce the perceived recoil.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:10 pm
by Scale Military
My furst gun. A Cz 527 American in .223 real nice gun! I'ma liking dat wood grain! It has a vortex scope mounted on it.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:23 pm
by Quick Steel
Interesting rifle SM. How many rounds does the magazine carry?
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:28 pm
by doglegg
Hey SM, I had a CZ 452 American for a while. They are certainly quality made guns. Exceptional value and everyone I've come across have been shooters. Congrats.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:30 pm
by Scale Military
Hi quick steel, it holds 5 rounds. Yeah, it's a nice one!
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:04 pm
by Colonel26
I’ve never shot a CZ, but I’ve never heard a bad word about them. It sure looks like it’s be a real varmint rifle fo sho.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:08 pm
by treefarmer
I know I'll probably get some flak for even thinking this but I could see using that .223 from a shooting house as a deer rifle. I remember when I was a kid (a long time ago), a .243 was considered too light for any deer, it was a varmint cartridge. With proper bullet and common sense I would welcome the chance to use a bolt action .223 such as the one Scale Military has obtained. I'd rather have a right handed one but I believe I could figure out how to shoot a lefty.
To support my attitude about the .223, I would offer this article if anyone is interested:
https://www.americanhunter.org/articles ... -for-deer/
I used to shoot a 30/06, been shooting a .243 now for probably more than 25 years and would welcome the lighter recoil of a .223 for my old arthritic shoulders.
Treefarmer
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:24 pm
by Colonel26
treefarmer wrote:I know I'll probably get some flak for even thinking this but I could see using that .223 from a shooting house as a deer rifle. I remember when I was a kid (a long time ago), a .243 was considered too light for any deer, it was a varmint cartridge. With proper bullet and common sense I would welcome the chance to use a bolt action .223 such as the one Scale Military has obtained. I'd rather have a right handed one but I believe I could figure out how to shoot a lefty.
To support my attitude about the .223, I would offer this article if anyone is interested:
https://www.americanhunter.org/articles ... -for-deer/
I used to shoot a 30/06, been shooting a .243 now for probably more than 25 years and would welcome the lighter recoil of a .223 for my old arthritic shoulders.
Treefarmer
There’s a young man at church, former Marine, who has taken a few deer with his AR-15. 223 of course. Comes down to shot placement, bullet type and knowing your limitations.
Hereabouts over the years there have been LOTS of deer taken with a 22lr. But that involves a good light and a dark night, which I am not advocating. Just agreeing with you that the right bullet in the right spot equals a dead deer.
Me, I need all the help I can get. So I use a 35 Remington. Lol