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Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:28 am
by TPK
New_Windsor_NY wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:39 pm My latest 72 variation is this, seller claims unbranded, 3 blade, swelled center, "whittler" pocket knife. Through a process of elimination, I'm 99.99% sure it's an Ulster 63. I'm 00.01% sure that it's NOT a Schrade 863 or a Craftsman 9494. When I receive it, it'll get the once over. I'll take some pictures and post them in the appropriate location(s).
Stamped, Unstamped or worn off Stamp? Whatever it is, it's a nice find. ::handshake:: :D

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:11 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
TPK wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:28 am
New_Windsor_NY wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:39 pm My latest 72 variation is this, seller claims unbranded, 3 blade, swelled center, "whittler" pocket knife. Through a process of elimination, I'm 99.99% sure it's an Ulster 63. I'm 00.01% sure that it's NOT a Schrade 863 or a Craftsman 9494. When I receive it, it'll get the once over. I'll take some pictures and post them in the appropriate location(s).
Stamped, Unstamped or worn off Stamp? Whatever it is, it's a nice find. ::handshake:: :D
Thank you Tom. ::handshake::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:47 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
This arrived today. A 3 blade, swelled center, "whittler" pocket knife. It is another Camillus 72 variation for my collection. I can't find any trace or remains of a tang stamp anywhere. It is "unbranded" in that sense. I have determined that this knife is either a Schrade 863 (doubtful), an Ulster 63 or a Craftsman 9494. I'm not going to lose any sleep wondering which one it is. It required and it received a cleaning. I took some pictures and here is the knife.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:27 pm
by doglegg
I fished these two out of the bay. One a Schrade 863 with no shield and the other one a Craftsman 9494. Seeing them together it is pretty easy to see that they came from the same blood line. The Craftsman's blades are pretty worn down, it was obviously used a lot. The Schrade's blades are in really good shape.
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Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:59 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
doglegg wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:27 pm I fished these two out of the bay. One a Schrade 863 with no shield and the other one a Craftsman 9494. Seeing them together it is pretty easy to see that they came from the same blood line. The Craftsman's blades are pretty worn down, it was obviously used a lot. The Schrade's blades are in really good shape.DSCN6277.JPGDSCN6278.JPG
Nice knives Floyd. ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:39 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Soon to join my Camillus 72 variation family, another Imperial, 3 blade, swelled center, 3 5/8" closed, scouting pocket knife. Physically, it looks like it's in good condition. Cosmetically, it looks like it needs to be cleaned. When it arrives, I'll check it out. I'll take some pictures and post them in the appropriate location(s).

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:00 am
by doglegg
Back at cha Skip. I always forget about those Imperial scout knives. ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:17 am
by New_Windsor_NY
doglegg wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:00 am Back at cha Skip. I always forget about those Imperial scout knives. ::tu::
I'm hoping that the shield is silvertone, rather than goldtone. I can't be 100% sure from the seller's pictures. I already have one of each, a goldtone shield knife and a silvertone shield knife. The silvertone shield knives don't pop up that often. ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:34 am
by Shearer
Here one for you to look at.
It looks like a early 863 with a typesetter blade.It has bone handles and pins through bolsters.Is it real I just don't know.But it looks old.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Sch ... 1438.l2649

Grant

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:33 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Shearer wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:34 am Here one for you to look at.
It looks like a early 863 with a typesetter blade.It has bone handles and pins through bolsters.Is it real I just don't know.But it looks old.

Grant
Thank you Grant. I did see that earlier and it is on my radar. ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:37 am
by New_Windsor_NY
These two Camillus 72 variations will be the latest additions to my collection. Two more Craftsman 9494, 3 blade, swelled center, 3 5/8" closed, "whittler" pocket knives. Each will get the once over when they arrive. Pictures will be taken and posted in the appropriate location(s).

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:30 am
by jerryd6818
Shearer wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:34 am Here one for you to look at.
It looks like a early 863 with a typesetter blade.It has bone handles and pins through bolsters.Is it real I just don't know.But it looks old.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Sch ... 1438.l2649

Grant
Grant, I suppose that could be a type setter's blade but I think it's more likely the original clip blade has been ground down and repurposed. Just a guess.

I played with the picture of the etch on the main blade but still can't quite make it all out. Maybe you'll do better.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:31 pm
by doglegg
A different one for sure Grant. ::tu::
Two good ones Skip. ::nod::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:19 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
doglegg wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:31 pm Two good ones Skip. ::nod::
Thank you Floyd. ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:02 pm
by Shearer
jerryd6818 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:30 am
Shearer wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:34 am Here one for you to look at.
It looks like a early 863 with a typesetter blade.It has bone handles and pins through bolsters.Is it real I just don't know.But it looks old.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Sch ... 1438.l2649

Grant
Grant, I suppose that could be a type setter's blade but I think it's more likely the original clip blade has been ground down and repurposed. Just a guess.

I played with the picture of the etch on the main blade but still can't quite make it all out. Maybe you'll do better.
Jerry I can't make at the edge.The two 863 Schrade Walden N.Y. USA knives I have you can see the hold tang stamp when fully opened.
It would be easier to replace a blade in this knife as it has the pins through the bolsters where the latter one's have the swindon system.
Than again it could have been a type setter and ground the blade down like you said.
There could be so many answer to the one question ::shrug::
Grant

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:15 pm
by rustyoldknife
Skip, I like your 2 examples of the imperials scouts! I can't tell from your picture the details of their tang stamps.
Do you know if the color of the shield is related to the date of the knife. I have 2 silver and 1 gold and the gold has the oldest tang stamp.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:39 pm
by doglegg
rustyoldknife wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:15 pm Skip, I like your 2 examples of the imperials scouts! I can't tell from your picture the details of their tang stamps.
Do you know if the color of the shield is related to the date of the knife. I have 2 silver and 1 gold and the gold has the oldest tang stamp.
They are certainly 3 great examples. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:55 am
by New_Windsor_NY
rustyoldknife wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:15 pm Skip, I like your 2 examples of the imperials scouts! I can't tell from your picture the details of their tang stamps.
Do you know if the color of the shield is related to the date of the knife. I have 2 silver and 1 gold and the gold has the oldest tang stamp.
Thank you. ::handshake:: Those are three VERY nice l👀king Imperial scout knives that you have. ::tu:: I don't know if the color of the shield(s) is related to the manufacturing date of the knives. A picture of my two tang stamps is below.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:05 pm
by doglegg
Comparing the pictures, evidently not.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:02 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
doglegg wrote: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:05 pm Comparing the pictures, evidently not.
I agree Floyd. The tang stamp on his "gold" shield knife is different than the tang stamp on my "gold" shield knife. Also the tang stamps on the "silver" shield knives are different. Apparently, there are three different tang stamps for this style of Imperial scout knife. I didn't know that. The one that is in the mail, besides not being sure about the color of the shield, I don't know what tang stamp it has. I hope it's the one that I need or the hunt continues..........::shrug:: :D

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:02 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
These two Camillus 72 variations arrived yesterday. First, another Imperial, 3 blade, swelled center, scouting "whittler" pocket knife. It has a "silvertone" shield and the tang stamp is one that I already have. Second, another Craftsman 9494, 3 blade, swelled center, "whittler" pocket knife. Both needed a little cleaning. I took some pictures and here they are.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:29 pm
by doglegg
::tu:: ::tu:: ::tounge::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:08 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
doglegg wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:29 pm ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tounge::
Thank you Floyd. ::tu::

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:28 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
I just purchased this for best offer. Another Camillus 72 variation, another Camillus 72Y, 3 blade, swelled center, 3 5/8" closed, Yello-Jaket "whittler" pocket knife. It looks like it's in great shape and won't need any cleaning. When it arrives, it'll get the once over. I'll take some pictures and post them in the appropriate location(s).

Re: Camillus 72 Clones

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:42 pm
by rustyoldknife
Great Looking Imperial Skip, ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
That's the oldest tang stamp I've seen and it looks like No shrinkage and close to full blades