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Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 3:28 am
by tank
Sorry Charlie, his profile is public and I thought it would show.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:51 pm
by carrmillus
RobesonsRme.com wrote:Tank, posting links to FaceBook only works for those AAPK members that are also FaceBook members.
I, myself, avoid social media like the plague that it is.
Wish I could see those knives, though.......
Charlie Noyes
......ditto, Charlie!!!......................

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Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 9:47 pm
by FRJ
And a nice old Miller Bro.
My first one.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:12 pm
by MrBlister
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 1:22 am
by RobesonsRme.com
Joe that is a fantastic Miller Brothers. Love that picked bone.
Classic.
I think that's a Wharncliff, however, as opposed to a farmers jack.
Some would call it a "half whittler", but that's a title with which I disagree.
You need to spread that one around to a few more threads, like the jigged bone thread, the Wharncliff thread (if there is one), etc.
Fabulous knife, that one.
Charlie Noyes
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:25 am
by wlf
Mel ,nice exam ,it is all steel .
Joe ,Charlie is right on all counts,he's about as reliable as Dimitri. Farmers jacks should have a spey or modified spey (rooster comb) blade. He also has an excellent vocabulary.
That is an excellent knife,beautiful bone,it belongs in Dimitri's old bone thread for sure.
Dave thanks for having eyes in the back of my head.
Joe here's that Thomas Turner Cutler to His Majesty: Probably early 1900,Edwardian reign ,has the William and Earnest Mills look (who I think made the Clements farmer whittlers).
It is 4" and has a long thin rounded bar shield (see the shields, pruning blades,etc. on the Clements:
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... &start=240 ).
I believe the "long pruning" blade has been reprofiled ,though not sure.Hard to tell after it's been cleaned,but I expect it was some sort of hawkbill.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:57 am
by FRJ
Charlie, thank you for your comment on the Miller Bros. It is a looker isn't it. I should have pegged it for a Wharncliff. To be honest, I thought about it and after I read your post I compared it to my little Northfield Wharncliff and of course your right.
Lyle, thanks for your comments and the help in identifying the Farmers Jack.
What a beautiful Thomas Turner Encore you have there. Thank you.
This is terrific! I get to draw a bead on another knife.
Thanks again guys.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:42 pm
by Dinadan
wlf wrote:Mel ,nice exam ,it is all steel .
Thanks Lyle. I think it would be a great user, though I cannot quite imagine myself ever using it!
wlf wrote:Joe ,Charlie is right on all counts,he's about as reliable as Dimitri. Farmers jacks should have a spey or modified spey (rooster comb) blade.
Lyle, I hate to argue with the experts, but there are a few knives posted earlier in this thread that look a lot like Joe's. Back on Aug 22, 2013 you posted this group of knives. The one on the left appears to have a modern wharncliffe blade (as opposed to the older hawkbill wharncliffe definition) amd the secondary blade does not look at all like a spey in my opinion.
Same with this one posted on May 04, 2012 by galvanic1882.
I guess it could depend the way the blades looked when mint. But I just wanted to stir up some trouble.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:27 pm
by peanut740
Both look to be cleaned and reshaped hawkbills to me.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 2:57 am
by wlf
Mel,
That IXL is a pre 1890 that the pruning blade has been sharpened into looking like a wharcliffe or sheepsfoot blade. That knife came from a dealer in California who had 6 or 7 of this pattern. All had their hawkbills profiled as such. The same effect happens to some spey blades, making them look like pen blades.
Most of the Wharcliffe bladed "1/2 whittlers" are smaller knives than the farmers jacks also.
This is a scan of a Camillus that our member Cates bought and has since sold. It came from the same California dealer.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 10:21 am
by galvanic1882
I am not an expert by any means and that being said the Honk Falls I posted way back in 2012 is the way it came from the factory for sure. The blade has not been reshaped but I guess there are always some non believers

Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:23 am
by 1967redrider
Decided to join the Farmer Jack craze, found a Queen Titusville Cutlery Co. from 2009 in gorgeous red bone. 1 of 100. These are the auction house's pictures.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:10 am
by jerryd6818
That's a beauty Red. Good choice.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:09 am
by Dinadan
Red - I agree with Jerry: that Queen is a great choice. I also had to buy one of those. I just could not resist the blade etch: it has to be one of the best etches in the last several decades. Please post some more photos when you get yours!
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:39 am
by 1967redrider
Speaking of "red," I think the dye and jigging on this knife are gorgeous. Thanks!

Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:00 pm
by wlf
That's a beautiful example John,those colors vary on those knives.I've seen one pinkish colored.I like that line of farmers jacks.
I still am looking for a nice mammoth ivory example.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:30 pm
by wlf
Here's a Wostenholm I got at the Blade Show.Pretty full blades,only French ivory Wostenholm I've seen. Most examples of this pattern are bone,a few stag and a very few later are composition.I have a Utica , Camilus,and a Schrade peach seed in black composition.
I have French ivory Schrades and Schrade contracts,NYK,and I've handled a very nice Remington French ivory(that I'd like to get my hands on

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The same dealer, 54rogers, found me a very interesting Camillus rooster comb,the earliest dated rooster comb I've seen.1916. I'll try and post it later,I'm going to be late this morning.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:15 am
by 1967redrider
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:33 pm
by wlf
Seems the French ivories want to join the gang.
One of the rarest and best I have. I've seen several bone examples,this is the only French ivory I have ever seen or heard of,except in Sargents first books.
Remington R3855 The colors match much better than the scanner took of the mark and pile side.Just got it today,couldn't hardly wait to share with you all.
Now I need one in Cocobolo.
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:48 pm
by carrmillus
wlf wrote:Mel ,nice exam ,it is all steel .
Joe ,Charlie is right on all counts,he's about as reliable as Dimitri. Farmers jacks should have a spey or modified spey (rooster comb) blade. He also has an excellent vocabulary.
That is an excellent knife,beautiful bone,it belongs in Dimitri's old bone thread for sure.
Dave thanks for having eyes in the back of my head.
Joe here's that Thomas Turner Cutler to His Majesty: Probably early 1900,Edwardian reign ,has the William and Earnest Mills look (who I think made the Clements farmer whittlers).
It is 4" and has a long thin rounded bar shield (see the shields, pruning blades,etc. on the Clements:
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... &start=240 ).
I believe the "long pruning" blade has been reprofiled ,though not sure.Hard to tell after it's been cleaned,but I expect it was some sort of hawkbill.
...what a beautiful knife!!!...love the bone!!!......

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Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:11 pm
by philco
Lyle that Remington is a wonderful knife.
Congratulations on landing that one.

Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:26 pm
by stockman
Lyle, that Remington is mighty fine old knife. Glad you found it.
Harold
Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:47 am
by galvanic1882
Great knives Lyle and I am happy you finally got that Remington

Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:36 pm
by 1967redrider
Great find, Lyle! That one's just as gorgeous as the ones in the reference books!

Re: Farmer's Jacks
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:45 pm
by wlf
Thanks fellas.Harold,Phil and Tommy.
Yea Mike,I called Dick the other day, and he said he had also thought about calling me. Great timing,I'm thankful.
I thought John it might be the same knife in Sargent's book.I hope he comes to the Central Ky knife show,I want to talk to him about it.That picture and this one are the only ones I've seen or heard of.This is the one I had handled and said I would like to get.I'm blessed for sure.