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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:15 am
by TwoFlowersLuggage
The Feds make a big deal out of saying that an FFL-03 does not give you the ability to buy/sell as a gun dealer - it is only for buying/selling for your personal collection. I'm not sure how they determine the difference, but I think there are stiff penalties if they determine that you are buying/selling for profit, not enjoyment.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:59 am
by Old Folder
TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Paladin wrote:TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Very cool Ray! Do you have a CC&R FFL?
Not sure what a CC&R is but I don't have one or an FFL.
Ray
Sorry - I meant "C&R" (I guess I stuttered on that C) - it means "Curios & Relics". It is a specific category of firearms that is for old guns (usually over 50 years old). There is a special FFL (called a type 03) you can get that applies only to C&R guns, and it is much easier to get than a regular gun dealer FFL. Having it allows you to buy guns classified as C&R without having to go through a gun shop - you can even buy mail order and have them shipped to your home!
I don't have one - but I always wanted one...
TwoFlowers;
I think you have your Sons new Condo on your mind?
(CC&Rs)
Convenants,
Conditions and
Restrictions.
Don't feel bad, more then once I have typed "AARP" instead of "AAPK"

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 5:09 am
by Old Folder
zp4ja wrote:Old Folder wrote:Thanks Jerry

More great information, I appreciate it sir.
If we re ever invaded, I want to be your neighbor.
Glad to help Dan.
I made an error in price for Diamondback I mentioned. They are about 350 bucks. However, Vortex does have the Crossfire II and Copperhead lines also. I have no experience with these but they start at about 170 best I can tell depending on model. I am sure they have good quality for price if they are like the other Vortex lines like the Diamondback, Viper and Razor lines.
I know you are not doing competition shooting but regardless nice to have a dependable scope to match a good firearm. Fun when the only variable on shanking a shot is the shooter not the setup. Still recommend the Diamondback or higher line of Vortex was if you are willing to drop the cash on it.
The Ruger bolt rifles seem pretty nice. Don’t own one but a guy at the range had a Ruger 700 in .308 that shot pretty good. Same concept and design as the .22 you are contemplating. One note may be that you may wish to check if smaller capacity magazines are available if you are bench shooting. Depends on your setup but a high capacity mag on the bench can hinder your elevation and tight hold. Again, all depends on you setup. For example, when I shoot an AR10 pr AR15 at the range, I use 10 round and 20 round magazines respectively. Instead of 20 and 30 round magazines respectively.
Why? Because in my bench setup the longer magazines hit the bench and interfere with my hold.
Food for thought. Good luck. Let us know what you pickup and how it works out.
Regards, Jerry
Excellent information Jerry.
Thank you for taking the time and educating me.
I'm going to print all the info you guys have sent me.
I'll let you all know when I "pull the trigger".

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:50 pm
by TwoFlowersLuggage
Old Folder wrote:TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Paladin wrote:
Not sure what a CC&R is but I don't have one or an FFL.
Ray
Sorry - I meant "C&R" (I guess I stuttered on that C) - it means "Curios & Relics". It is a specific category of firearms that is for old guns (usually over 50 years old). There is a special FFL (called a type 03) you can get that applies only to C&R guns, and it is much easier to get than a regular gun dealer FFL. Having it allows you to buy guns classified as C&R without having to go through a gun shop - you can even buy mail order and have them shipped to your home!
I don't have one - but I always wanted one...
TwoFlowers;
I think you have your Sons new Condo on your mind?
(CC&Rs)
Convenants,
Conditions and
Restrictions.
Don't feel bad, more then once I have typed "AARP" instead of "AAPK"


I think you are right!
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:58 pm
by carrmillus
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:05 pm
by Meridian_Mike
Here is a fun little project I did a few years ago. A guy gave me a bunch of "junk" in a 5 gal bucket. Down in there was this little Remington model 95 derringer frame. I have always wanted one so I figured I needed to fix this one.....LOL. Well, I finally rounded up enough parts and got it back in working order. Finding 41 rim fire ammo was the hardest part. I finally did manage to round up 5 or 6 of those to the tune of $10 a pop (that was the cheapest price too).
Back in one piece....
Mike
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:12 pm
by Quick Steel
Mike, what a great build. Did you fire a shot? I can understand if you pass on that at $10 bucks a pop. Again, that is a fine accomplishment.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:58 pm
by doglegg
Great restore Mike. Gunsmith and a knifesmith. Wow

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:17 pm
by Meridian_Mike
Quick Steel wrote:Mike, what a great build. Did you fire a shot? I can understand if you pass on that at $10 bucks a pop. Again, that is a fine accomplishment.

Thanks for the complements y'all....
Not fired yet.... I'm afraid it will have to be a big occasion before I waste one of those $10 cartridges.
I thought I had some usable cartridges one time. DGW used to sell a box of reproduced 41 rimfires. Now, even those go for big $$$. The cartridges I have are original antiques. Recon I'll shoot another pistol and just look at this one.....LOL.
Mike
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:45 pm
by TwoFlowersLuggage
Mike, that's awesome! Is that little checkered thumb pad on the side of the barrels the ejector?
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:34 pm
by jmh58
MM.. Now that is just plain KOOL!!!

Kudos and GREAT job!!!

John

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:25 pm
by Colonel26
Mike, that’s about as cool as it gets.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:21 pm
by Miller Bro's
Nice save!
Is it nickle plated?
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:44 pm
by big monk
Traded a shotgun for this Springfield XDM9 3.8 Compact --- 13 with short mag / 19 with full mag. -- shoots really,really smooth & accurate -- guy I traded with had put the "textured tape" on the grips and I like the feel.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:09 pm
by jerryd6818
Looks like you might get a better grip with that extended magazine in.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:56 pm
by sam eib
Nice work on that derringer!!!
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:45 pm
by big monk
jerryd6818 wrote:Looks like you might get a better grip with that extended magazine in.
Yes sir !!! No doubt,I like the extended better than the short one -- I don't carry,so it's in my truck console with the ext. mag

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:57 pm
by Meridian_Mike
TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Mike, that's awesome! Is that little checkered thumb pad on the side of the barrels the ejector?
Yep, that is the extractor. I sure learned a lot about these derringers while working on this one. Lots of fun!!
Miller Bro's wrote:Nice save! Is it nickle plated?
Well, not nickle plated yet.... I just polished it up on the polishing wheel. The originally sold both nickle and blued versions. Jury is still out about how to finish it.
Thanks for the comments everyone!
Next I want to make a box for it...... Something like this one.....
(pic borrowed from the net)
Mike
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:05 pm
by Meridian_Mike
I sort of have this "thing" for small pistols.....
Here is a Belgian "Baby Sable".... The thing I really like about this one is the folding trigger. It is 22 short caliber.
AND it's a top break......
Mike
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:09 pm
by Meridian_Mike
This one is an Iver Johnson Defender model 89 in 22 short caliber....... 7 shot revolver.....
Another fun little pistol.
Mike
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:09 pm
by doglegg
All three cool little guns Mike. A 5 shot .22 short was the self defense gun of its day.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:25 am
by RobesonsRme.com
Oh, I like that Belgian Sable.
A couple of those passed through our home when my Dad was gun trading.
Does that one have a depiction of a sable on the side anywhere? I cannot remember whether they were sitting, lying or running, but I definitely recall them having an animal on them.
Charlie Noyes
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:49 am
by Meridian_Mike
RobesonsRme.com wrote:Oh, I like that Belgian Sable.
A couple of those passed through our home when my Dad was gun trading.
Does that one have a depiction of a sable on the side anywhere? I cannot remember wheter they were sitting, lying or running, but I definitely recall them having an animal on them.
Charlie Noyes
Well, maybe because this one is a baby sable

, but mine doesn't have a sable on it. All I see is "made in Belgium" the usual proof marks and on the other side, "cal 22 short only"...
Here is the other side.....
Mike
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:52 am
by Meridian_Mike
After looking around a bit I did find this ad.....
There is that sable....
This is an internal hammer model....
You have a mind like a steel trap Charlie! Nothing gets past you!
Mike
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 2:05 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Yeah, my head is chocked full of the minutia of my life. All it takes is a slight stimulus and some long neglected factoid comes oozing out of the convolutions of my grey matter and presents itself, once again, as conscious thought.
Most of it unimportant, however, and none of it will ever make me wealthy.
Charlie