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Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:31 pm
by LongBlade
wlf wrote:And..... I can just see the cowboy with a pearl cattle knife. I'm grin'n
Lyle - I was thinking the same thing - it’s not the first I have seen in MOP... maybe they were for fancy cowboys who drive a Cadillac :lol: :lol: ....

One other thing regarding handles - according to the “book” the majority were celluloid or jigged bone but “fancy” ones (I quote fancy) were MOP or fancy celluloid...... I would think given wood may be more durable that it would be a handle of choice but guess not...

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:00 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
My nephew dropped off this cattle knife to have a little work done on it. It is a Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett, and Co. with nice bone handles. I understand Schrade, Camillus, and /or New York Knife made most of these. Is it possible to determine the manufacturer of these by the shield, and the observation that the three blades each use a different pull? The spear master has a match strike, the sheepsfoot has the short D shaped nail nick, and the skinner has a long pull.
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Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:44 pm
by peanut740
Looks like New York Knife.Fine knife OC. ::tu::

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:28 pm
by KAW
Sweet lookin' cattle knife OC... that one has it all going for it... nice jigged bone... luv the blade combination in such great shape and with those different pulls!... ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: 8)

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:43 am
by stockman
Fine old cattle knife with nice old NYK bone.

Harold

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:18 am
by tongueriver
That is a looker, Jim; I don't know the answers to your questions except that I am pretty sure there are no Schrade CutCo genes in that one. And I think it dates to before 1930 (say).

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:24 am
by tongueriver
LongBlade wrote:.. maybe they were for fancy cowboys who drive a Cadillac :lol: :lol: .... .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hQibx6FDRU

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:54 am
by 1fartsmella
OLDE CUTLER wrote:My nephew dropped off this cattle knife to have a little work done on it. It is a Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett, and Co. with nice bone handles. I understand Schrade, Camillus, and /or New York Knife made most of these. Is it possible to determine the manufacturer of these by the shield, and the observation that the three blades each use a different pull? The spear master has a match strike, the sheepsfoot has the short D shaped nail nick, and the skinner has a long pull.
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OC, I agree with Roger. This HSB has all the DNA of a New York Knife Co cattle knife. The first pic is a lo-res scan of an old ebay auction photo from 2005. An etched NYK cattle knife. I had to keep a copy of this "Grail" knife that went for a lot of money back in 2005. The second pic is a copy from a 1908 catalog with the Cattle Knife Etched knife on the right. It came in Ebony and Stag (jigged bone). The Knife is 3 3/4" closed. I would guess that your knife was etched with the same etch when it was new. Check the wholesale price in 1908 was $15 bucks per dozen. Likely $2.00 each retail back then.

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:42 pm
by JohnR
OC, that is a beautiful old Cattle knife.

Picked up this Wards with nice bone and an unusual shield, knife is all steel construction.

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:29 am
by JohnR
A New York Knife Co, used but not abused.

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:56 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
Sweet old cattle knives, they really get my motor running ::tu::

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:21 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
Hey folks lets see some more of those cattles that are out there ::tu::
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Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:16 pm
by gsmith7158
Here are acouple of new ones I just got. I do believe the Case will ride in the pocket some.

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:46 pm
by KAW
Greg... that's a really fine lookin' Empire you have there... ::tu::
... the Case is not bad either... eventho its not a brand I collect... they're still nice to look at... :)

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:59 pm
by gsmith7158
KAW wrote:Greg... that's a really fine lookin' Empire you have there... ::tu::
... the Case is not bad either... eventho its not a brand I collect... they're still nice to look at... :)
Thanks Ken! They are both fantastic knives. I was very happy to find the Empire.

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:39 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
What an excellent find that empire is Greg. The case is no slouch either.

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 10:05 pm
by gsmith7158
KnifeSlinger#81 wrote:What an excellent find that empire is Greg. The case is no slouch either.
Thanks Paul! :D

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:09 am
by FRJ
gsmith7158 wrote: I was very happy to find the Empire.
Yer killin me here! ::mdm::

That thing is just as good looking in this thread. ::woot::

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:57 pm
by rugmar
Here is my only "cattle knife". I just found this one a week or two ago and couldn't resist it's charm. I love the blade that says for cutting flesh only. At first I thought maybe it said for cutting flush only but found out from this wonderful site that I was wrong.

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:23 pm
by luckydog64
Nice knife Rugmar. Is that a Cattaraugus?

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:30 pm
by rugmar
Yes a Cattaraugus. I should have said that in my reply. It says 32209C on back side of main blade.

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:33 pm
by galvanic1882
Catts usually have circle shields if the have a punch blade. Let’s see those blades???? ::shrug::

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:28 pm
by rugmar
I am not at home right now but I will take a blades open picture and post it later. It does have a punch blade. It is slightly bent on the end but not broken.

I learned yesterday, from this great site no less, about the meaning of the round shield. Thanks for mentioning it again though. Galvanic1882, you have some of the most beautiful knives I have ever seen. What is the core of your collection?

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:45 pm
by rugmar
Here’s one that I have now where you can tell it has a punch blade. I’ll do the blades open later.

Re: Old Cattle Knives

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:35 am
by 1fartsmella
This is an old Empire. Blades & back springs are dark. Has a few nicks in the cutting edge. But not bad for 100 years old.