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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:20 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
That Beretta is nice, Phil.
Even has a cup for smokeless tobacco. Sweet.
Charlie Noyes
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:40 pm
by espn77
It has a trigger guard safety.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:02 am
by TwoFlowersLuggage
espn77 wrote:TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Very nice! Why were you cravin' the 20 gauge? Shoulder gettin' sore?

It's a sweet qual gun.
Ahh - I understand. When I a was a teen I did quite a bit of dove hunting with an old 20 gauge.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:34 pm
by peanut740
Been wanting one of these for many years and finally pulled the trigger awhile back at a show.Springfield Armory M1A with a walnut stock.l had been looking at several AR10's but decided to stay old school.Haven't taken it out to shoot yet,on the days I could it has been too cold.Maybe later today.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:08 pm
by garddogg56
Peanut...that's nice

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:42 pm
by treefarmer
Peanut740,
That is nice! Seems like I used to tote something that looked a lot like that.

It belonged to my Uncle Sam, it had a place for a selector switch

I even remember it's serial number, 2047015, Sir!
Treefarmer
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:52 pm
by zp4ja
Very nice Roger. Nice old military rifle.
Congratulations on that one for sure.
Jerry
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:37 pm
by carrmillus
.....that really looks familiar!!!!!!...........

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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:49 pm
by TwoFlowersLuggage
Are you planning to use it with the iron sights, or put modern optics on it?
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:02 pm
by espn77
Cool gun Roger. Interested to hear how she shoots.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:12 pm
by jerryd6818
Roger! Oh my God! I swoon!
I want one but I'm conflicted. I don't have a proper place to shoot it (anything under 200 yards is almost like point blank range) so it would just sit in the gun cabinet so what's the point. But oh my God how I want one.

Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:26 pm
by carrmillus
...first rifle I was issued at ft. Jackson in 1958 was a springfield '03, it was worn out completely, but before we got to go to the rifle range, they replaced it with a brand new M1!!...always wondered how it would shoot, but didn't get the chance to try it!!............

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Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:53 pm
by peanut740
I took it out this late afternoon and ran a few rounds thru it.Went in the back yard and shot down a ditch line about 100 yards or so.Not much of a target,but was starting to rain.Operates great and need to adjust the sights proper.
She will stay with iron sights.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:10 am
by FRJ
Very nice, Roger. Good looking stock.
I shot one on a few occasions at a range back in the late 60s. I sure loved shooting it.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:28 am
by RobesonsRme.com
That's not a gun, that's a weapon.
"This is my weapon! This is my gun! This is for killing! This is for fun, Sergeant!"
Charlie
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:38 am
by treefarmer
Y'all excuse me for actin' like a know it all, but as Roger said in his post, this rifle is a Springfield Armory M1A. It shoots the NATO round 7.62mmX51 same as the 308 Winchester round. It is a civilian M-14, maybe it's just me but seems like no one seems to recognize the difference.

The M14 replaced the M1 Garand and a bunch of other weapons but was short lived as the M16 came on the scene.
Treefarmer
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:27 am
by TwoFlowersLuggage
Oh, there is a big difference between the M1A and the M14 that is related to that little switch inside the red square...
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:17 pm
by jerryd6818
Ooh Rah Charlie.

If a Drill Instructor heard you call it a 'gun' in boot camp, you would have been doing bends and thrusts until the world changed the direction of it's rotation.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:37 pm
by Quick Steel
Basic at Ft. Polk introduced me to the wonderful world of the M-14. During AIT at Ft. Ord, we got to spend time with the M-14 in full auto mode. Besides shooting at the ranges out on the sand dunes, we got to make a night assault up a hill while firing the preferred 3 round bursts.
Those were the final days of the M-14 [except for special situations]. I liked the M-16 that followed, but I loved the M-14.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:55 pm
by jerryd6818
TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Oh, there is a big difference between the M1A and the M14 that is related to that little switch inside the red square...
m14_fire_selector.jpg
Yes but not everyone who carried an M-14 had a selector switch on their rifle. I don't recall anyone in any of the LAAM Batteries I served in having a selector switch on their weapon. Can't speak for the Grunts. Those 0300s were in a whole different world. I got to fire one on full automatic one time during my entire enlistment. What a kick in the butt that was.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:35 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
I might be forgiven for not recognizing this was a civilian weapon.
I trained in Basic with an M-1 Garand and the M-14 in Infantry AIT at Ft. Ord. When I got to SF in January, 1968, it was, of course, the M-16.
So, it's been fifty years since I held or even saw an M-14.
Good thing we have people smarter and more knowledgeable than I on AAPK.

Else, misinformation would be rampant.
Charlie Noyes
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:09 pm
by Quick Steel
In AIT we learned that the M-14s would not generally be issued with an active selector switch. The Army considered them too difficult for most of the troops to control. I thought the instruction we were given was effective. We were told to fire at the base of our target and simply walk the rounds up and into the target. This was facilitated by a special grip hanging below the barrel. In effect the M14A1 became a light weight BAR [Browning Automatic Rifle]. But this all became a non-issue with the rapid distribution of the M-16.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:32 pm
by TwoFlowersLuggage
Yes, I'm aware a lot of M14s were never configured with all the parts to go full auto - but all M14s could be pretty easily changed by simply putting in about $25 worth of parts. The M1A would not accept those drop-in parts.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:59 am
by jerryd6818
TwoFlowersLuggage wrote:Yes, I'm aware a lot of M14s were never configured with all the parts to go full auto - but all M14s could be pretty easily changed by simply putting in about $25 worth of parts. The M1A would not accept those drop-in parts.
It seems to stick in my mind (and there's an anomaly if I ever saw one) that that is the reason the M-14s didn't make it out on to the civilian market like the M-1s did.
Re: Guns & Gun Related Stuff
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:22 am
by Old Hunter
There are a few legal GI issue M14's (without the selector) that were sold to the civilian market by the DCM (also a decent number of M-2 Carbines). Once ATF (now BATFE) issued the ruling, "once a machine gun, always a machine gun" that ended the DCM sales. Those already sold are grandfathered, but were allowed to be papered under NFA-34, any not papered are illegal now - the last amnesty was during the Reagan Administration. Those few GI M-14's on the market used to command about 6K - that was ten years ago, not sure what they are worth now. OH