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Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:19 am
by Shearer
I have two bone handle 72.One is almost mint the other well worn but they are different besides the bone color.The coping blade is on the end of one knife the same as in the 1946 catalog on the other knife next to the clip.I have to stop studding knives every time I look I find something different.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:26 am
by jerryd6818
There's another one I don't have. A short line with bone handles and 2nd generation blades. This disease is going to bankrupt me.
Received three in yesterdays mail.
A Camillus short line with black composition handles and 2nd gen. blades.
A Hammer Brand ('45-'55 Can't see the USA in my picture and only the 'U' with the knife in hand.) that was in pretty sad condition. It cleaned up pretty well but took a good bit of elbow grease.
And last but far from least, a Trustworthy Hardware (Schrade/Ulster made) in factory condition that I traded for with a non-AAPK member (Yet. I'm still working on him. He's at least lurking now.

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Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:58 pm
by Colonel26
jerryd6818 wrote:orvet wrote:the Moore-Maker has a swedge ground blade
Any idea when they stopped grinding the swedge?
Dale -- Look a little closer. The shield says Moor Man's, not Moore-Maker. I'm thinking they're not related.
As far as dropping the swedge grind, I'd guess sometime around the middle '90s. I don't think you can rely on the SFOs to date that but the "100th Anniversary" model with bone handles and ducks engraved in the blade and the Ole Smoky have swedge grinds, plus this one with the last tang stamp. All the rest I have with that tang stamp do not have the swedge.
Moor Man's was a feed company. I just assumed that it was an advertising knife for the company. I have no idea why it would have been different.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:08 pm
by carrmillus
.....jerry, looks like you have caught me!!!!...........

..........i never was much interested in the ones that weren't marked camillus, but now you've got me thinking!!!!.....show us a picture of all of 'em!!!..................

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Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:31 pm
by orvet
jerryd6818 wrote:
Dale -- Look a little closer. The shield says Moor Man's, not Moore-Maker. I'm thinking they're not related.
As far as dropping the swedge grind, I'd guess sometime around the middle '90s.
You are right Jerry............ I have dyslexia when I type!
That Hammer Brand is very interesting!
That is the only Imperial Hammer Brand I have seen that was not a shell handle!
The only other Hammer Brands I have seen that were not shells where those made by New York Knife, the original owner of the Hammer Brand name.
That is an incredible find!!!

Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:36 pm
by Shearer
JERRY a nice lot of knives . The 72 and it clones have more variation than any other knife.A person could just collect 72 and have a reasonable collection.Now I have some more knife I will have to look for.
Grant
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:07 pm
by jerryd6818
This Utica Kutmaster finally showed up in today's mail. She's a little the worse for wear but not horrible. It's kinda hard to tell whether the secondary blade along side the primary was originally a pen blade or small clip. Length and frame are correct for a 72 clone, plus I've never seen one before. Really nice jigged Delrin handles that favors Camillus jigging. (in my eyes) One more for the pile. I've outgrown my folders. I need a bigger one.
Edit: It's not a well made knife but it's one I didn't have. It'll do.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:34 pm
by orvet
Hmm........
If Utica put one out, I would not be surprised to see one show up with the Kabar stamp.
Utica, Camillus and to the best of my recollection Imperial/Schrade all made knives for Kabar.
We know Western had the same pattern, just not in a swell center frame.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:40 pm
by jerryd6818
orvet wrote:Hmm........
If Utica put one out, I would not be surprised to see one show up with the Kabar stamp.
The hunt is on.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:43 pm
by jerryd6818
carrmillus wrote:.....jerry, looks like you have caught me!!!!...........

..........i never was much interested in the ones that weren't marked camillus, but now you've got me thinking!!!!.....show us a picture of all of 'em!!!..................

.............
Here ya go Tommy. Current as of today. Don't blink.

The one in the upper right corner with the blades open is my EDC.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:03 pm
by carrmillus
..................jerry, that's awesome!!!.......

..........i concede, you've got my collection beat by a mile!!!.you are the camillus king!!!.....

.......only thing i see missing is a buffalo horn handled 1999 moore-maker splitback!!!.......

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Re: camillus #72
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:54 pm
by jerryd6818
Tommy, those are all Camillus 72s and clones such as Schrade 863, Ulster 63, Craftsman 9494, etc, etc. The only true whittler in that pile is the one you gave me.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:05 am
by orvet
You win Jerry!
I think you are the most dysfunctional one of us!

Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:04 am
by Shearer
I would have to agree with Dale but I am getting a lot of practice trying to catch up.
Maybe I have bashed my baldy head to many times
I am a farmer and always looking for the next knife.No I meant rain

Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:39 am
by jerryd6818
I didn't know it was a contest. I've just been cruising along fighting (not very successfully) this obsession with 72s and their clones. I hope you guys are just clowning around and don't think I'm the kind of person who has to be on top, 'cause that's not me. Obsessed? Yes. With being on top? NO!
Just one more (or two) and then I'm going to delete all my eBay searchs and stop. Or at least slow down a whole lot.

Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:46 am
by orvet
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:48 am
by jerryd6818
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:49 am
by Shearer
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:49 am
by orvet
OK..................... you caught me.

Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:54 am
by jerryd6818
Jeez. Just pile on fellers. Have a little mercy. I'm a sick man.

Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:06 am
by Shearer
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:16 am
by jerryd6818
I'm going back to bed Grant. It may be Miller time in Australia but it's sleepy time in Rockford, IL USA. Have a cold one for me, Bud.
Blah. Doesn't even sound good at 1:15 AM.

Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:53 pm
by carrmillus
jerryd6818 wrote:carrmillus wrote:.....jerry, looks like you have caught me!!!!...........

..........i never was much interested in the ones that weren't marked camillus, but now you've got me thinking!!!!.....show us a picture of all of 'em!!!..................

.............
Here ya go Tommy. Current as of today. Don't blink.

The one in the upper right corner with the blades open is my EDC.
........jerry, i'm interested in your EDC, the handles look identical to the one i carry everyday, but mine has the badge shield(long line tang stamp)-that looks like a more recent shield, am i right????......

...............
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:12 pm
by jerryd6818
Tommy -- My EDC is a Schrade 863. In fact, this one in the picture.
Re: camillus #72
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:19 pm
by Shearer
Another variation the Craftsman 9494.Most where made by Schrade or Ulster.I have one made by Imperial.It has the pins through the bolster and sabre grind on both sides of the clip blade.