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Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:51 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Pictured below is one of my Ulster 63 knives and my latest Craftsman 9494 knife.
Can you tell which is which? No cheating, the answer is five posts down.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:41 pm
by jerryd6818
Top Schrade, bottom Ulster.
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:10 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:41 pm
Top Schrade, bottom Ulster.
PM sent.
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:12 pm
by Vit_213
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:51 pm
Pictured below is one of my Ulster 63 knives and my latest Craftsman 9494 knife.
Can you tell which is which? No cheating.
I don’t know who is who, but it seems to me that they were made in one factory.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:27 pm
by doglegg
Vit, I bet they have the same DNA. Both desirable Skip.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:54 am
by New_Windsor_NY
doglegg wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:27 pm
Vit, I bet they have the same DNA. Both desirable Skip.
Thank you Floyd.
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:51 pm
Pictured below is one of my Ulster 63 knives and my latest Craftsman 9494 knife.
Can you tell which is which? No cheating.
Answer to my question:
The top knife is the Ulster 63 and the bottom knife is the Craftsman 9494.
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:22 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Here is a summary of all the Camillus 72 variations that I have as of today, February 8.
Picture 1-CAMILLUS 1047 Scout knives (Round & Federal Style Shields).
Picture 2-IMPERIAL Scout knives (Silver & Gold Federal Style Shields). BEAR MGC Scout knife.
Picture 3-SCHRADE 863 knives.
Picture 4-ULSTER 63 knives.
Picture 5-(Top to Bottom) POWR-KRAFT 84-11 - FORGED U.S.A. - STANLEY SL6 - HARLEY DAVIDSON HD21 - RIGID RG70 -
HOLLINGER FREMONT - HOLLINGER FREMONT - KUTMASTER - KUTMASTER.
Picture 6-(Top to Bottom) REMINGTON R14 - REMINGTON R14 - REMINGTON R14 - REMINGTON R14 - MCGREW ARKANSAS -
MCGREW ARKANSAS - MCGREW ARKANSAS.
Picture 7-CRAFTSMAN 9494 knives.
Picture 8-(Top to Bottom) CAMILLUS 72(Y) - CAMILLUS 72(Y) - CAMILLUS 72(Y) - CAMILLUS 72 OLE SMOKY - CAMILLUS 80.
Picture 9-RED DEER (Pakistan) - Unbranded (China?, Pakistan?, ?)
Click on any picture to ENLARGE.
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:29 pm
by Doc B
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:58 pm
by jerryd6818
You're coming right along Skip. There are several I don't see but you're tenacious and you'll get 'em.
As for the unmarked pearl handle in the last picture, there's a possibility that it's a Whitetail. I say that because the one I have like it came to me with a slip of paper as shown below. So maybe, maybe not but I've decided the knife was made in Pakistan. It has some of the ear-marks of old Paki's work.
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:53 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Why thank you Doc.
jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:58 pm
You're coming right along Skip. There are several I don't see but you're tenacious and you'll get 'em.
As for the unmarked pearl handle in the last picture, there's a possibility that it's a Whitetail. I say that because the one I have like it came to me with a slip of paper as shown below. So maybe, maybe not but I've decided the knife was made in Pakistan. It has some of the ear-marks of old Paki's work.
Thank you Jerry.

As far as the unbranded knife goes, we went over this when I first purchased it. It definitely isn't a Whitetail, we agreed that it was either Chinese or Pakistan, leaning towards Pakistan.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:04 am
by doglegg
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:33 am
by jerryd6818
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:53 am
Thank you Jerry.

As far as the unbranded knife goes, we went over this when I first purchased it. It definitely isn't a Whitetail, we agreed that it was either Chinese or Pakistan, leaning towards Pakistan.
Well, your memory is better than mine.
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:41 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Thank you Floyd.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:12 pm
by carrmillus
jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:58 pm
You're coming right along Skip. There are several I don't see but you're tenacious and you'll get 'em.
As for the unmarked pearl handle in the last picture, there's a possibility that it's a Whitetail. I say that because the one I have like it came to me with a slip of paper as shown below. So maybe, maybe not but I've decided the knife was made in Pakistan. It has some of the ear-marks of old Paki's work.
...jerry, I used to have one of those, but I gave it to someone and now I can't remember who it was???....

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Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:25 am
by jerryd6818
carrmillus wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:12 pm
jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:58 pm
You're coming right along Skip. There are several I don't see but you're tenacious and you'll get 'em.
As for the unmarked pearl handle in the last picture, there's a possibility that it's a Whitetail. I say that because the one I have like it came to me with a slip of paper as shown below. So maybe, maybe not but I've decided the knife was made in Pakistan. It has some of the ear-marks of old Paki's work.
...jerry, I used to have one of those, but I gave it to someone and now I can't remember who it was???....

.........
Tommy I'm pretty sure T.J. sent the one I have to me.
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:14 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
I just now acquired this SCHRADE, WALDEN, 3 blade, swelled center, 863 pattern, "KON KAV" blade etch, "whittler" pocket knife. Yes, another Camillus 72 variation. It looks like it's in very good condition. When I receive it, I'll give it the once over, take some pictures and post them in the appropriate location(s).
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:20 pm
by TPK
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:14 pm
I just now acquired this SCHRADE, WALDEN, 3 blade, swelled center, 863 pattern, "KON KAV" blade etch, "whittler" pocket knife. Yes, another Camillus 72 variation. It looks like it's in very good condition. When I receive it, I'll give it the once over, take some pictures and post them in the appropriate location(s).
Nice Skip! Hope I find one of these before they are sold out.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:37 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
TPK wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:20 pm
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:14 pm
I just now acquired this SCHRADE, WALDEN, 3 blade, swelled center, 863 pattern, "KON KAV" blade etch, "whittler" pocket knife. Yes, another Camillus 72 variation. It looks like it's in very good condition. When I receive it, I'll give it the once over, take some pictures and post them in the appropriate location(s).
Nice Skip! Hope I find one of these before they are sold out.
Thank you Tom.

It was one of the more difficult variations of the Schrade 863 to obtain.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:36 pm
by doglegg
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:51 pm
by jerryd6818
Congratulations Skip. You're a lucky duck. Good find.
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:20 pm
by Shearer
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:14 pm
I just now acquired this SCHRADE, WALDEN, 3 blade, swelled center, 863 pattern, "KON KAV" blade etch, "whittler" pocket knife. Yes, another Camillus 72 variation. It looks like it's in very good condition. When I receive it, I'll give it the once over, take some pictures and post them in the appropriate location(s).
Skip nice knife.
You will find the knife has pins through the bolsters.It means it was made before the swinden system .Before 1960.
Grant
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:43 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Thank you Floyd.
jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:51 pm
Congratulations Skip. You're a lucky duck. Good find.
Thank you Jerry.
Shearer wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:20 pm
Skip nice knife.
You will find the knife has pins through the bolsters.It means it was made before the swinden system. Before 1960.
Grant
Thank you Grant.

Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:31 am
by woodwalker
I picked this knife up today at my local antique shop. If you know anything about it I would appreciate your info. Thank you.
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:06 am
by New_Windsor_NY
woodwalker wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:31 am
I picked this knife up today at my local antique shop. If you know anything about it I would appreciate your info. Thank you.
Hi Kevin. I just want to make sure you understand what I said. I'm not saying that Jerry is wrong, NOT AT ALL. I'm just wondering that if your knife, made for Sears by Camillus, would still be considered a (Craftsman) pattern 9494? Or did it have a different pattern number since it was made by Camillus? Was the name "Craftsman" solely used on Schrade contract knives for Sears? I have never seen a Craftsman knife with any kind of Camillus stamp or marking. Of course I could be wrong and probably am. If this is confusing, I don't mean it to be.
It's still a FANTASTIC knife!

No matter what company made it for what company.
Re: Camillus 72 Clones
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:30 pm
by woodwalker
Thanks Skip. Were lucky to have both you and Jerry! Don't know much about them myself but I know I like the knife. Will EDC it for a while. Nice half stops on two smaller blades and Saber grind on main. Think it will be a good cutter. Thanks to you and Jerry for your insights. Really appreciate you guys.
