All About Pocket Knives

I picked up a special 808 this week. I thought that the 8 from the 1947 catalog was the earliest version of the 808 but I was wrong. Here's a Cut Co version - exact same knife except for the stamp. I haven't seen one before and it isn't in the catalogs. It's a safe guess that it came later than the 1940 catalog and the brass liners probably means it's pre war or possibly it was from right after the war, before ownership changed hands. Neat little knife in near mint condition. I bought it from the son of a woman who worked for Schrade for many years and collected a bit too. Top down: 808Y, 8, Cut Co

jxr1197 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:41 pm I picked up a special 808 this week. I thought that the 8 from the 1947 catalog was the earliest version of the 808 but I was wrong. Here's a Cut Co version - exact same knife except for the stamp. I haven't seen one before and it isn't in the catalogs. It's a safe guess that it came later than the 1940 catalog and the brass liners probably means it's pre war or possibly it was from right after the war, before ownership changed hands. Neat little knife in near mint condition. I bought it from the son of a woman who worked for Schrade for many years and collected a bit too.
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Top down: 808Y, 8, Cut Co
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Very nice!

I have seen a few cut co's but that is one of the the best ones.

Not really rare , but maybe someone has some info or one like it...this is an extremely well used Walden 708..clip blade is nearly sharpened away..but the diminutive little fellow has great snap and no wobble..is this schrades smallest offering? THIS example is after derlin but pre Swindon pin..early 60's..what makes this one unusual is the tiny shield is engraved It appears professionally done , but why..you can't see it with out a magnifying glass..I don't know that qualifies it as rare but lets go with odd!

KnifeSlinger#81 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:35 pm Very nice!

I have seen a few cut co's but that is one of the the best ones.

Thanks - this is the first one I've seen and it's fostarene like the 8 I found recently. Still looking for one in bone...

Wbyonder wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:31 pm is this schrades smallest offering?

It depends on how you're measuring. It's not the smallest length-wise. There are 3rd Generation patterns that are shorter and also a slew of lobsters and ring turns. It's not the slimmest either - that honor probably goes to the Simon. But, overall when you measure length, width and thickness I wouldn't be surprised if the 708 takes up the least amount of physical space.

Thank you , Jason for that insight into size...my hands aren't particularly large..but i've lost some dexterity over the years and the small knifes are harder for me too use but i'm amazed at the precision that they were made on this scale..

Here are some that I don’t see often in forums or for sale

Schrade Spit fire

Bone Scrim Peter Styvesant

Ulster 12

Lake and Walker BG42

LB5 with Herman Williams stag

I know the pics are weak, but I noticed that I hit 7 posts and when I joined I swore I would post at least 1 pic for every 7 non-pic posts.

I have a few other "rare" to me schrades, but want to get a better I-phone or have my significant other photo those. It will probably be the later since I just dropped few bucks on a Cargill this week and I really don't like using cell phones.

Hope this post fits the topic and you folks don't have tons of the above.

Regards.

That Ulster 12 in the wrapper up above - just killer!

Here's a pair of barehead trappers that were never listed in a catalog and I always assumed were escapees from the sample room but Sargent has a picture of one and identifies it as an S294. I don't know if I agree with that. From that time period the 'S' could mean stagged(?) but it's not a 294 pattern. If anything, shouldn't it be an S293? Another mystery..

Here's another oddball trapper - the 291 Grizzly Bear. The only thing that differentiates it from a 293 is the brass shield - that's it, literally. It was a single year production knife in 1965 with 2893 knives ordered but only 176 shipped by year's end. There's a flyer from 1965 that shows the pattern as part of a national campaign advertised in Sportman's Magazine with dealer displays sent out just for the promo and the display cases were trimmed in brass - so the 291 shield matches the case. That's the only explanation I can think of for the 'why' of it all. An interesting thing I noticed on the flyer is the same case had a 718, which they called the Mighty Mite - a name they recycled for the much later 18OT. In classic Schrade style they used two different spellings for the word 'mighty' (mity) on the same flyer.
That extra pretty one in the center was rehandled in jigged bone by Herman Williams. I bought that one from Doug Webber.

jxr1197 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:50 pm I like that cattle knife!
This 2.75" stockman doesn't look particularly rare but it's not a common 808. It's the predecessor, a single digit Schrade simply known as '8'. All 3 tangs are stamped and there's no pattern number on the blade. It's covered in Fostarene and has milled liners.
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That’s sweet

Coined Liners means old?

There must not be too many of these out and about. A Schrade Walden yellow comp 881 with an 8OT stamped clip blade.

Hak1911 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:01 am Coined Liners means old?

My rule of thumb is if it's older than me, it's old. That knife is from the 50s - definitely old. Nice 808 you got there.

Here's one I haven't seen before. It's a TL-29 pattern with black cell handles. The screwdriver was re-profiled into a blade at some point. The pattern shows up on the price lists for 1953 and 1954.

jxr1197 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:43 pm Here's one I haven't seen before. It's a TL-29 pattern with black cell handles. The screwdriver was re-profiled into a blade at some point. The pattern shows up on the price lists for 1953 and 1954.
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That is very unique!

Genuine stag is rare on schrades in any condition. This one is a schrade walden 884.

It had been cleaned so I forced a patina on it to get it looking better and now it's my edc. It's enjoyable to carry a rare knife, and a good one this is.

KnifeSlinger#81 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:11 amThis one is a schrade walden 884.

That stag! I have not seen an 884 before. Do you know what years they were made?

jxr1197 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:59 am

KnifeSlinger#81 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:11 amThis one is a schrade walden 884.

That stag! I have not seen an 884 before. Do you know what years they were made?

I can only guess this one was likely made sometime in the 1950's. It is the only one I've seen; although I have seen a picture of this same pattern in stag but it was a schrade cut co with salesman ink on the blade.

There's one point of reference on cosrus - the 1956 price list.

jxr1197 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:46 am There's one point of reference on cosrus - the 1956 price list.
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I hadn't noticed that, thanks for pointing it out.


Seems like it was expensive.

Maybe the rarest production Old Timer there was - 50OT

jxr1197 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:00 pm Maybe the rarest production Old Timer there was - 50OT

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I’ve never seen one. That’s awesome!

I have what appears to be a scrubbed Ulster blade on a Schrade junior cattle knife: And something I haven’t seen before. A NIB GEC made 3-3/4” Schrade Fire and Ice jumbo trapper that is missing the etch on the spey blade.

BFORSE wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:50 pm I have what appears to be a scrubbed Ulster blade on a Schrade junior cattle knife:
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And something I haven’t seen before. A NIB GEC made 3-3/4” Schrade Fire and Ice jumbo trapper that is missing the etch on the spey blade.
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The Ulsters and the Schrades in that pattern were identical, right down to the bone. The only difference to my knowledge were the tang stamps.

tongueriver wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:15 pm

BFORSE wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:50 pm I have what appears to be a scrubbed Ulster blade on a Schrade junior cattle knife:
D4043818-CEB8-4C1B-A588-34E6C45F1AD9.jpeg
FCFAB1A3-BCD5-422D-9800-69F7F8B2F895.jpeg
And something I haven’t seen before. A NIB GEC made 3-3/4” Schrade Fire and Ice jumbo trapper that is missing the etch on the spey blade.
57399B0E-98E7-4D36-961D-D154D88B054D.jpeg

The Ulsters and the Schrades in that pattern were identical, right down to the bone. The only difference to my knowledge were the tang stamps.

The only ulsters that I found had steel bolsters with no strike line and maybe steel liners, whereas the only schrades I found had nicklesilver bolsters with strikelines and brass liners.