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Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:35 pm
by chickenman62
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:06 am
by stumpstalker
Chickenman62:
It looks like a workman-like knife to me, a good user.
But here I go again, as for it being an English Jack: I consider authoritative sources such as LEVINE’S GUIDE on what constitutes a particular knife pattern; thus, I do not see this one as meeting the English Jack criteria. It lacks the degree of finish one expects, such as having a top bolster, an endcap, and shield.
As for the handle die, I cannot tell if the photo has distorted the appearance of what should be in an English jack's tapered straights sides, or if the handle is something more curved than a Regular or Sleeve-board profile.
Regardless of handle shape, it seems a stretch to call a large shadow knife an English jack.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 2:37 am
by chickenman62
I guess one of these days I'll figure this out. At least you are teaching me something. Thanks Stumpstalker.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:33 pm
by Ridgegrass
Been doing a long awaited catalog of my entire collection and started on the Robesons today. Probably posted this before but I had it out so here it is. It's a big old boy, 8 inches open. Pattern # 622151. Stamped ROBESON SHUREDGE in block print. J.O'.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:44 am
by doglegg
Sweet big ole knife J O.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:51 am
by Ridgegrass
Thanks DL O'.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:27 am
by stumpstalker
That Robeson is a nicely proportioned English jack: 4-1/2-inches closed; sleeve-board handle die; full spear blade; long-range pen blade that reaches 2/3rds of the way back to the end cap. Very pleasing to the eye.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:47 pm
by Ridgegrass
Thanks Stump. It's a sleeper. Kinda wish it were bone, but it's a cool piece. J.O'.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:32 pm
by JCup
My neighbor gave me this beauty, I had seen it at his home laying on a counter. It was very dirty and rusty, would barely open. I offered to clean it up, and when I brought it back he told me to keep it. He said it belonged to his uncle, and he had kept it in an old toolbox for years - that probably dates it to early 20th century. Reference to "His Majesty" could mean two different King Georges. After some rag scrubbing, burnishing, oiling, and a few passes on my Spyderco Sharpmaker, this knife has an amazing edge, and it walks and talks. I've actually been carrying it lately. Wish I could confirm the age, but this pattern was in production a long time. Brass liners may be a later feature. I had never known anything about Joseph Rodgers, but they were apparently one of the best makers in Sheffield.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:22 pm
by fishin1635
Oh what a kind neighbor, looks like your hard work paid off. That’s some excellent looking stag
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:51 am
by stumpstalker
That knife has so many great features it puts it among the worlds's most unlikely knives to ever be GIVEN away.
And I do not expect to hear anyone say that there was a better knife maker in Sheffield.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:32 pm
by Ridgegrass
Boentgen & Sabin 1867-1983 'Bonsa" German big Jack. 4-1/4" closed, just shy of 8" open. I like the foot and soccer ball on the pile side tang. J.O'.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:04 pm
by fishin1635
That’s a nice English jack J.O’. Looks like the blade is pretty full, the bone has lots of character and that tang stamp is pretty cool. Great pickup
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:53 pm
by Ridgegrass
Thank fishin' J.O'.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:39 am
by stumpstalker
That's a nice German-made English Jack, and in high condition. The pen blade shows distinct glaze finish.
I see that Goins lists both BONSA and BONZER as German knives, but with different time-frames. Nothing further is said about any relationship between them.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:27 pm
by peanut740
Here's one I just bought at the Show yesterday (Voyles)and sold today.Clipper Knife Companies.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:28 pm
by JohnR
peanut740 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:27 pm
Here's one I just bought at the Show yesterday (Voyles)and soldtoday.Clipper Knife Companies.
Great looking knife, love pick bone with a bare end.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:46 pm
by Ivoryman
JCup wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:32 pm
My neighbor gave me this beauty, I had seen it at his home laying on a counter. It was very dirty and rusty, would barely open. I offered to clean it up, and when I brought it back he told me to keep it. He said it belonged to his uncle, and he had kept it in an old toolbox for years - that probably dates it to early 20th century. Reference to "His Majesty" could mean two different King Georges. After some rag scrubbing, burnishing, oiling, and a few passes on my Spyderco Sharpmaker, this knife has an amazing edge, and it walks and talks. I've actually been carrying it lately. Wish I could confirm the age, but this pattern was in production a long time. Brass liners may be a later feature. I had never known anything about Joseph Rodgers, but they were apparently one of the best makers in Sheffield.
Nice score, kudos on the clean up and congrats on a beeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee addition.
peanut740 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:27 pm
Here's one I just bought at the Show yesterday (Voyles)and sold today.Clipper Knife Companies.
Beautiful bones and jigging, that's gorgeous. Nice show.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 4:33 am
by fishin1635
peanut740 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 2:27 pm
Here's one I just bought at the Show yesterday (Voyles)and sold today.Clipper Knife Companies.
What an amazing find, that pick bone and Washington bolsters are stunning. Did I read this right that you sold it, someone got a gem.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:07 pm
by Ivoryman
Great thread, enjoyed surfing through. Not vintage, but this is the current iteration of English Jack GEC is doing. Beavertail with jigged Brazilian Cherry wood.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:24 pm
by fishin1635
New but still a good one Ivoryman
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:26 pm
by fishin1635
Here’s another new one with the Washington bolsters in smooth camel bone
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:38 pm
by Ivoryman
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:10 pm
by edge213
fishin1635 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:26 pm
Here’s another new one with the Washington bolsters in smooth camel bone C158C132-8B29-4E66-B041-FDF3ED262901.jpeg
Beautiful! I do love the cloud shield.
Re: English Jacks show yours
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:23 pm
by fishin1635
Thank you Ivoryman and David for the compliments. I too, like the cloud shields edge. The camel bone on this run reminds me a lot of the giraffe bone.
