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Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:45 pm
by BWT
Here's mine.

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:45 pm
by FRJ
Nice knives, Bill. ::tu::
Great show! ::tu::

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:06 pm
by LongBlade
Nice group of knives Bill - thanks for sharing ::tu:: ::tu:: You have some awesome NYK Co knives - All look to be in great condition... Can I ask the length of that single blade ivory example?? Does it have good snap to the blade opening and closing? Looks like a boys knife to me though perhaps a quill knife pending size as the blade looks abit smaller in size ::nod::... How far does the spring wrap around on the top side?? Guess a photo from the top down would be best if possible....

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:07 am
by BWT
LongBlade wrote:Nice group of knives Bill - thanks for sharing ::tu:: ::tu:: You have some awesome NYK Co knives - All look to be in great condition... Can I ask the length of that single blade ivory example?? Does it have good snap to the blade opening and closing? Looks like a boys knife to me though perhaps a quill knife pending size as the blade looks abit smaller in size ::nod::... How far does the spring wrap around on the top side?? Guess a photo from the top down would be best if possible....
Thanks Joe and Lee. I was fortunate, all those knives have good to excellent snap and no blade wobble. The ivory is 2&3/8,with excellent open and closing snap and half stops. I thought it might be a quill knife? The New York ones that don't have Hammer Brand on the tang I was told would make them before 1878??? Thanks again.

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:19 am
by LongBlade
Thanks Bill for providing that info to help clarify ::tu:: ... Beautiful knife indeed - I believe it is a quill knife and a quite nice one too ::nod:: ...

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:40 am
by wlf
Nice bunch Bill.

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:14 am
by JohnR
Nice group there Bill, really like the Ulster, I've had a thing recently for early Ulster and Utica knives.

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:36 am
by BWT
Thanks Lyle and John. That's my first Ulster but won't be my last.

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:00 pm
by thefarside
New York Knife and an Ulster Ellenville small stamp. Sorry the picture of the New York didn't pick up the etch.

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:48 am
by BWT
Two nice knives, but the Ulster, Ellenville is one good looking knife, thanks for sharing ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:58 am
by FRJ
thefarside, those are two beautiful knives. What great early antique folders.
That is a fine Ulster Ellenville. A lockback swing guard with an exceptional spear blade and gorgeous stag.
How long is that knife? Is that a folding dirk with that blade?

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:56 pm
by wlf
Nice big folders Jim. I like that Ellenville Ulster. I had one like that stamped Ellenville Knife Company. I traded it to Mike Losicco.

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 3:43 pm
by LongBlade
Indeed 2 beauties Jim ::tu:: ::tu:: ... Thst Ulster has a cool shield too :) ..

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:01 pm
by thefarside
Bill, Joe and Lyle - Thanks for the comments, The Ulster is 4 3/8 inches closed and I believe with the false edge grind all along the top of the blade it would be considered a folding dirk. Here is a Napanoch folding hunter I have had for awhile. The stamp is very light and the reverse is stamped with the pattern number X100X ( the stamp and the pattern number are slightly more legible if you click on the photos). The factory bail is unique.

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:04 pm
by thefarside
Thanks Lee, your comment beat my previous reply.

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:08 pm
by peanut740
thefarside wrote:Bill, Joe and Lyle - Thanks for the comments, The Ulster is 4 3/8 inches closed and I believe with the false edge grind all along the top of the blade it would be considered a folding dirk. Here is a Napanoch folding hunter I have had for awhile. The stamp is very light and the reverse is stamped with the pattern number X100X ( the stamp and the pattern number are slightly more legible if you click on the photos). The factory bail is unique.
Jim,I believe this is from the later Napanoch company, after the original sold to Winchester.I think this knife was made by Union Cut on contract. ::tu::

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:17 am
by thefarside
Roger, I agree with your assessment, I definitely believe the bone on my knife is Union bone. When I was in St. Louis, one of the collectors in the area had a Napanoch folding hunter with a dog head shield.

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:34 pm
by KAW
wlf wrote:left to right

Schrade ,Ulster,Southington

French ivory was a very popular handle choice for knives. Even the less expensive(now) and shrinking yellow composition early Case knives
brought attention and admiration. It was pleasing to the eye.
LongBlade wrote:Calling Ken to the podium now :D ....
For the record... I was referring to the knives Lyle mentioned as having French Ivory handles as in his photo...
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I was assuming (based on the name of the pattern) that a farmers jack would be a hard used kind of knife, even more likely to be abused and so was wondering if the French ivory would hold up under such use as compared to bone or wooded handles?

As for guessing at the makers in the photo... I suppose I'm going to have to repeat the course on Schrade vs Ulster... :oops:

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:13 pm
by KAW
::welcome:: Bill & Jim So glad you have stopped by... & quite honored to see the knives you have posted here... ::handshake::
Bill... That quite a collection you have there... 8) ::tu::
Just last Saturday I picked up a NYKC at the Lehigh Valley Knife show just like your second photo.
Mine is stamped with the pattern number 2421 on the pile side of the spear blade... I just luv those long pulls...
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Jim... great showing... I envy you for the NYK stamped bolster & would "kill"for one still with an etch!!! :mrgreen:
... and that Ulster / Ellenville is to drool for! ::drool::
... and a hefty Napanoch to boot!... 8)
Really enjoying the great knives being posted here... ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:12 pm
by KAW
On what turned out to be a spur of the moment decision on the morning of... I donned my newly received earlier in the week bright red AAPK shirt and drove two hours with my girl in tow to the Lehigh Valley Knife Show in Easton, Pa last Saturday. Definitely one of the best decisions I have made this year! ::super_happy:: We came home with 15 knives... most adding to the Hudson Valley collection...
Needless to say I'll be busy posting them to this thread for the near future, but for now I'll start with a teaser photo of all 15...
at top is a Canal Street Cutlery 5¼" folding hunter with buffalo horn handles & sheath made in 2010.
The grouping of three in the upper left are New York Knife Co.
below that are two old E.C. Simmon Keen Kutter that I am hoping someone can tell me if they were made at the Walden factory?
(I have already posted them on the Keen Kutter thread). Also a Simmon Keen Kutter MoP steak? knife.
At the bottom & center... Schrade Scrimshaws including an Ellenville-Warwarsing July 4th, 1992 commemorative with the USS Constitution.
Upper right is a Montgomery Wards' Lakeside brand tuxedo c.1922−1928; a Schrade Cut Co. lobster; two Ulsters (one with a blade etch) & a Connecticut addition in the way of Excelsior Knife Co. jack... further details to follow...

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Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:26 pm
by BWT
KAW wrote:::welcome:: Bill & Jim So glad you have stopped by... & quite honored to see the knives you have posted here... ::handshake::
Bill... That quite a collection you have there... 8) ::tu::
Just last Saturday I picked up a NYKC at the Lehigh Valley Knife show just like your second photo.
Mine is stamped with the pattern number 2421 on the pile side of the spear blade... I just luv those long pulls...
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Jim... great showing... I envy you for the NYK stamped bolster & would "kill"for one still with an etch!!! :mrgreen:
... and that Ulster / Ellenville is to drool for! ::drool::
... and a hefty Napanoch to boot!... 8)
Really enjoying the great knives being posted here... ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
Thanks Ken, these New York knife are some of my favorites!!

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:29 pm
by BWT
KAW wrote:On what turned out to be a spur of the moment decision on the morning of... I donned my newly received earlier in the week bright red AAPK shirt and drove two hours with my girl in tow to the Lehigh Valley Knife Show in Easton, Pa last Saturday. Definitely one of the best decisions I have made this year! ::super_happy:: We came home with 15 knives... most adding to the Hudson Valley collection...
Needless to say I'll be busy posting them to this thread for the near future, but for now I'll start with a teaser photo of all 15...
at top is a Canal Street Cutlery 5¼" folding hunter with buffalo horn handles & sheath made in 2010.
The grouping of three in the upper left are New York Knife Co.
below that are two old E.C. Simmon Keen Kutter that I am hoping someone can tell me if they were made at the Walden factory?
(I have already posted them on the Keen Kutter thread). Also a Simmon Keen Kutter MoP steak? knife.
At the bottom & center... Schrade Scrimshaws including an Ellenville-Warwarsing July 4th, 1992 commemorative with the USS Constitution.
Upper right is a Montgomery Wards' Lakeside brand tuxedo c.1922−1928; a Schrade Cut Co. lobster; two Ulsters (one with a blade etch) & a Connecticut addition in the way of Excelsior Knife Co. jack... further details to follow...

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Wow Ken that was quite a day, they are ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:56 am
by FRJ
Congratulations on a great bunch of knives, Ken. ::tu::

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:44 pm
by wlf
KAW wrote:
As for guessing at the makers in the photo... I suppose I'm going to have to repeat the course on Schrade vs Ulster... :oops:
The similarity was amazing to me and was the sole purpose of that scan.

Great haul from the show.

Re: America's "Little Sheffield"

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 6:47 pm
by thefarside
Shapleigh Hardware - decent old Jack