All About Pocket Knives

tongueriver wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:38 pm 890 pattern 3.5 inches, Schrade Walden. I believe this bone jigging to be late 1950s. I am tickled with this new one.
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peanut740 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:38 pm Picked up this later 50's Walden 293 trapper with a Maher and Grosh etch. I don't think I have seen prettier bone on a knife from that era.

Two great examples from that era. That bone has very attractive colouring!

bladecollectorr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:42 pm

tongueriver wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:38 pm 890 pattern 3.5 inches, Schrade Walden. I believe this bone jigging to be late 1950s. I am tickled with this new one.
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peanut740 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:38 pm Picked up this later 50's Walden 293 trapper with a Maher and Grosh etch. I don't think I have seen prettier bone on a knife from that era.

Two great examples from that era. That bone has very attractive colouring!

Thanks.

Ivoryman wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:08 am

peanut740 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:38 pm Picked up this later 50's Walden 293 trapper with a Maher and Grosh etch. I don't think I have seen prettier bone on a knife from that era.

Great score, that's the kind of bone. Mmmmmmmnnnnnnn.

You said it Iman, gorgeous bone Roger.

This thread needs a little waking up. I have posted this knife previously, about 100 pages ago, but it is rarely seen and deserves anothing showing.
Schrade-Walden 906 Stainless, 1958-1963 age range but might only have been made in one of these years.
kj

kootenay joe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:16 am This thread needs a little waking up. I have posted this knife previously, about 100 pages ago, but it is rarely seen and deserves anothing showing.
Schrade-Walden 906 Stainless, 1958-1963 age range but might only have been made in one of these years.
kj

Interesting Schrade! Never seen one of those before.

kootenay joe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:16 am This thread needs a little waking up. I have posted this knife previously, about 100 pages ago, but it is rarely seen and deserves anothing showing.
Schrade-Walden 906 Stainless, 1958-1963 age range but might only have been made in one of these years.
kj

Great score! Those Swiss Army Knife clones seem to be pretty hard to find.

kootenay joe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:16 am This thread needs a little waking up. I have posted this knife previously, about 100 pages ago, but it is rarely seen and deserves anothing showing.
Schrade-Walden 906 Stainless, 1958-1963 age range but might only have been made in one of these years.
kj

That’s a nice piece, wasn’t aware of this one!
Thanks for showing it

kootenay joe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:16 am This thread needs a little waking up. I have posted this knife previously, about 100 pages ago, but it is rarely seen and deserves anothing showing.
Schrade-Walden 906 Stainless, 1958-1963 age range but might only have been made in one of these years.
kj

Concerning the dates of manufacture of the 906 American Army Officers Knife, you might find this interesting. I collected pictures of this safety award knife some years ago that is dated 1956. Orvet has found evidence of manufacture from '57 - '63. I own one with the Schrade Walden shield on it.

Mustanger wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:02 pm

kootenay joe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:16 am This thread needs a little waking up. I have posted this knife previously, about 100 pages ago, but it is rarely seen and deserves anothing showing.
Schrade-Walden 906 Stainless, 1958-1963 age range but might only have been made in one of these years.
kj

Concerning the dates of manufacture of the 906 American Army Officers Knife, you might find this interesting. I collected pictures of this safety award knife some years ago that is dated 1956. Orvet has found evidence of manufacture from '57 - '63. I own one with the Schrade Walden shield on it.

Very cool shields! Thanks for sharing!

I did not know the 906 has a few variations. Trying to collect one of each would be a big challenge.
The 906 is not a clone of an SAK. The construction is quite different, more solid. There is a thick 'bar' that runs the length of the knife and serves as the 'back stop' for the "Can Piercer".
kj

kootenay joe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:16 am This thread needs a little waking up. I have posted this knife previously, about 100 pages ago, but it is rarely seen and deserves anothing showing.
Schrade-Walden 906 Stainless, 1958-1963 age range but might only have been made in one of these years.
kj

That's a really nice example. The 906 first shows up on the 1955 price sheet. In 1959 they shipped 1512 units and another 4560 in 1960. The pattern appears on the 1961 price sheet but none were shipped that year, or at all after 1960. I have no idea how many they shipped from 1955-58.

My 906 isn't as clean as yours but it does have that neat Walden shield. The other knife is the Craftsman version of that pattern.

Jason, thank you for the dates on the 906. I'm sure not many were made. It is now quite a rare knife. Very neat that you have one marked "Craftsman". Does it also have "Sta-Sharp" ?
Your S-W shield is very attractive. I wonder if mine with no shield was made in a different year ?
kj

kootenay joe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:19 pm Jason, thank you for the dates on the 906. I'm sure not many were made. It is now quite a rare knife. Very neat that you have one marked "Craftsman". Does it also have "Sta-Sharp" ?
Your S-W shield is very attractive. I wonder if mine with no shield was made in a different year ?
kj

There's no Sta Sharp etch (are there Schrades with that etch or was it only Camillus?). I haven't seen many 906's but now that I'm thinking about it I'm pretty sure yours is the only one I've ever seen without the Walden shield.

jxr1197 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:34 pm

kootenay joe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:19 pm Jason, thank you for the dates on the 906. I'm sure not many were made. It is now quite a rare knife. Very neat that you have one marked "Craftsman". Does it also have "Sta-Sharp" ?
Your S-W shield is very attractive. I wonder if mine with no shield was made in a different year ?
kj

There's no Sta Sharp etch (are there Schrades with that etch or was it only Camillus?). I haven't seen many 906's but now that I'm thinking about it I'm pretty sure yours is the only one I've ever seen without the Walden shield.

Oops, you are correct, "Sta-Sharp" was only used on the Camillus made Sears knives.
I wonder what these red handles are made of ? Too early for Delrin and no signs of any off gassing so likely not celluloid. Whatever type of 'plastic' it is holds up well, no shrinking or cracking.
kj

Does anyone have one of these Schrade SAKs for sale?

An 8OT. Looked used and carried in the listings, but I suspect it wasn't used, and wasn't carried--just stored poorly. Blades are still sharp, and I see traces of factory oil, but the blades have carbon spots. I paid $25 for it. I bought it to carry, but don't think I will. There's a bit more worn, slightly older Old Crafty take on the 8OT (Sears Craftsman 9547) in the store here I may just pick up to carry instead. There are becoming fewer and fewer mint/near-mint 8OTs these days, and what's out there now is getting out of the reasonably priced category.

Great find Cody, congrats. Really like the 8OT. Here are mine. Yours here with unused blades is great. Agreed, all kinds of knives that used to be cheap now not so anymore. Resurgence in popularity of the traditional American made knives.

Hey there Schrade fans,got a question for you? Picked up this 163 last week , don’t know much about it . It was 13 bucks so grabbed it ,thinking it’s worth that for sure. So does Schrade label this a Pruner ,Hawlbill ? Seen a couple referred to as Rope knife,but don’t think so on that one? And does the Bail, shackle, look factory . It’s all steel liners,pins,bolsters. Snaps and bites! The bail, the more I look at it ,doesn’t seem right for this period of piece.
Thank you if able to answer questions.

Ripster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:34 pm Hey there Schrade fans,got a question for you? Picked up this 163 last week , don’t know much about it . It was 13 bucks so grabbed it ,thinking it’s worth that for sure. So does Schrade label this a Pruner ,Hawlbill ? Seen a couple referred to as Rope knife,but don’t think so on that one? And does the Bail, shackle, look factory . It’s all steel liners,pins,bolsters. Snaps and bites! The bail, the more I look at it ,doesn’t seem right for this period of piece.
Thank you if able to answer questions.

The research section on Schrade here calls it a "Linesman's Skinning Knife", but it's a hawkbill. I have a box all of my hawkbill knives go in (minus the TL-29 types that have a hawkbill as a main or additional blade), whether they be intended for electrical work or pruning.

cody6268 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:39 pm

Ripster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:34 pm Hey there Schrade fans,got a question for you? Picked up this 163 last week , don’t know much about it . It was 13 bucks so grabbed it ,thinking it’s worth that for sure. So does Schrade label this a Pruner ,Hawlbill ? Seen a couple referred to as Rope knife,but don’t think so on that one? And does the Bail, shackle, look factory . It’s all steel liners,pins,bolsters. Snaps and bites! The bail, the more I look at it ,doesn’t seem right for this period of piece.
Thank you if able to answer questions.

The research section on Schrade here calls it a "Linesman's Skinning Knife", but it's a hawkbill. I have a box all of my hawkbill knives go in (minus the TL-29 types that have a hawkbill as a main or additional blade), whether they be intended for electrical work or pruning.

Thanks Cody
Now can if I can remember that long name! Want to call it a hawkbill still . It’s good to know what the Manufacturer calls it ,Appreciate it.

Ripster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:34 pm Hey.....

VERY nice hawkbill, JP.

The is the 163 as well as a 136 and i think a 186 ? All have similar handle but a different blade profile. One of them is the Rope knife.
kj

kootenay joe wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:02 am The is the 163 as well as a 136 and i think a 186 ? All have similar handle but a different blade profile. One of them is the Rope knife.
kj

Thanks Roland, that’s good to know. The older Rope knives are neat pieces.

I have a Schrade Walden 136 and a Schrade Walden 186. The numbers on both are perfectly clear, one has a "3" and the other an "8". The only difference i can see is the 136 has a bail. Both have a Hawkbill blade.
I also have a Schrade Cut Co knife with a similar handle and a Rope blade, but being a Schrade Cut Co there are no pattern numbers on it.
The 136 and 186 have always confused me. Why 2 different pattern numbers ?
kj

Ripster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:34 pm Hey there Schrade fans,got a question for you? Picked up this 163 last week , don’t know much about it . It was 13 bucks so grabbed it ,thinking it’s worth that for sure. So does Schrade label this a Pruner ,Hawlbill ? Seen a couple referred to as Rope knife,but don’t think so on that one? And does the Bail, shackle, look factory . It’s all steel liners,pins,bolsters. Snaps and bites! The bail, the more I look at it ,doesn’t seem right for this period of piece.
Thank you if able to answer questions.

During the Schrade Walden era there were three similar knives in that line that utilized the same handles:

-The 186 was the horticultural hawkbill with the very pointy beak and no shackle.

-The 136 was the Lineman's Skinning Knife with the identical hawkbill only with a slightly rounded and blunted point. Blade had a linesman's knife etch. This knife had a shackle.

-The 163 was the rope knife. Same handle but with a large sheepsfoot or rope blade and no shackle

In the first few years of the Schrade Walden era the bolsters had a rattail cut into them, a carryover from the Cut Co days. Eventually the rattail was fazed out and straight bolsters were used. Without the model numbers on the 186 and 136 it would be almost impossible to differentiate between the two when just comparing blades on used knives as the act of sharpening them several times would likely round the pointy tip of the 186 and maybe add a bit more point to the 136. The bail definitely helps in telling them apart. Ripster you definitely have the 136 there and the bail is legit.

Starting around 1979 or 1980 they started interchanging the 136/186 model numbers on their respective blades for some reason. I think they'd just make a batch of hawkbill blades with whatever model number was handy for the stamp, and then if they needed linesman's knives they'd just round the tip and add the etch. The crazy thing was that on those blades they started grinding the edge right around the rounded point, which completely nullified that safety feature making that end like a flying scalpel when it snapped shut LOL! At this point shackles were added to both knives as well. Here's an example of that, two different models with the same 136 tang stamp, likely from around 1979:

Eric