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Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:38 pm
by LongBlade
Love that old Schrade Paul ::tu:: ::tu:: ...

Tony - All NICE Boys Knives IMO ::tu:: ::tu:: ..,

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:17 pm
by peanut740
That's a dandy Paul! ::tu::

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:47 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
Thanks guys, that schrade is one of the gems of my collection.

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:48 pm
by KAW
Haven't kept up with this thread for a while... but just got an addition that by reading about discovered belongs here...
altho there appears to be plenty of Holleys shown here in better shape (really like the Holley & Merwin Lee)...
I thought I'd post this on for prosperity's sake...
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Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:55 pm
by LongBlade
Definitely belongs here Ken ::tu:: ::tu:: ... and thanks regarding the Holley & Merwin ::handshake:: ...

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:31 am
by LongBlade
Finally took some photos of this one for this thread to share…

An unusual and rare to find Boys Knife were those designed as blunt safety knives .. This knife along with Joe's (FRJ) blunt safety knife from Northfield were together in one photo in the boys knife article a few years ago.. I am also posting a catalog cut at the end of the photos that Neal (Mason) kindly shared for a similar boys knife safety blade printed in 1900 though I am not sure of the company….

T Smith & Co / Cast Steel was a Sheffield firm and though Goins lists T Smith & Co from 1797-1800 but I think that may be incorrect. I’m guessing this knife was mid to later 1800s. Tweedale had a T Smith but he was only noted as a razor maker in the mid 19th century.

Knife is 2 & 7/8” with cocobolo handles, iron liners and threaded bolster. Though the end was blunted the knife was no doubt sharpened… Joe has a Northfield of the same exact safety design - size, blade shape, cocobolo wood etc ::nod:: I believe both of these knives were in the collection of Tom Heitzman at one time.
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1900 Boys Knife catalog cut with rounded blade option
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Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:33 am
by JohnR
Very nice Lee, I don't think I've ever seen the blunt ones.

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:37 am
by LongBlade
Thanks John ::tu:: ::handshake:: ... Other than my knife and Joe's example I have never seen others ... I have seen boys knives where the tips were sharpened purposely to round them or they had been tipped :lol: ...

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:39 am
by danno50
Nice knife, Lee, very interesting boy's knife! ::tu:: Interesting description on the catalog cut: MADE OF GOOD MATERIAL, BUT NOT HAND FORGED".

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:27 am
by FRJ
Great pictures of a very nice knife in great condition, Lee. ::tu::

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 2:10 pm
by LongBlade
Thanks Dan and Joe ::tu:: ::handshake:: ... Joe - you have pictures of your Northfield?? I could post the photo of both together as well :)

Dan - The description is quite amusing - guess given the year 1900 perhaps not hand forged meant drop forging ::shrug:: (which was developed long before) - interestingly I learned when researching the PKBG&F Union that starting around 1900 companies began using drop forging for many reasons but one was to threaten the cutlers from striking - the management thought as more automated tools were available they should institute them in-house to show the cutlers (forgers) they were replaceable.... There was indeed alot of push and shove between management and employees in that time period of the cutlery industry ..

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:28 pm
by FRJ
Check your e-mail, Lee.
I sent you some pictures of my Northfield if you want to use them.

There is a picture on page one.

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:54 pm
by LongBlade
Thanks Joe ::tu:: ...

Here’s the Northfield Boys Knife with blunt safety blade from Joe - a really nice knife and indeed rare :D ..
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And here’s the photo of both our knives from the article:
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Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 12:53 am
by KnifeSlinger#81
My first knife as a boy was not nearly as good as these, but the tips were rounded...by my dad with a grinder.

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 1:33 pm
by LongBlade
KnifeSlinger#81 wrote:My first knife as a boy was not nearly as good as these, but the tips were rounded...by my dad with a grinder.
Thanks Paul ::tu:: ::handshake:: ..

Too funny ::tu:: ... I see those knives pretty often with the grinder fixing that pointed end :lol: ...

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 4:37 pm
by danno50
This one should qualify as a boy's knife at 3 1/8"?

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:28 pm
by LongBlade
danno50 wrote:This one should qualify as a boy's knife at 3 1/8"?
A very nice Challenge Boys Knife indeed - nice score Dan ::tu:: ::tu:: ....

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:53 pm
by danno50
Thanks Lee.

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 1:48 pm
by danno50
Here is an article, from the May 1922 issue of American Cutler, about selling "good knives" to boys. Clicking on the jpgs enlarges them to be readable.

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 2:00 pm
by Frailer
Thanks to this thread I purchased the August 2017 back issue Knife World magazine. The boy’s knife article was very well done indeed. Thanks to the authors!

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:30 pm
by LongBlade
Thanks Frailer - glad you enjoyed the article ::tu:: ::handshake:: .. and welcome to AAPK ::nod:: !!

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:10 pm
by FRJ
Here is a sweet little Holley that I got today. Walks and talks like Gene Kelly!
2 3/4" closed.
Shown with its bigger brother at 3 1/8" closed.

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:06 am
by LongBlade
Nice score Joe ::tu:: ::tu:: ... The two look like almost identical brothers except for the difference in length :) ...

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:27 am
by FRJ
Thank you Lee, it's always nice to add another one to your nice thread. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Boys Knives Through the Years

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:21 pm
by wlf
Nice old knife Joe. I am amazed how good tools 100 years old survived.

A lot of people had pocket knives. ::nod:: ( as Dimitri does )