Re: Which one would you buy?
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:11 pm
Ontario always liked their budget friendly Old Hickory line
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Yup! I'd go with Randall Made also. Good strong company with huge backlog in a RED state.
Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:57 pm No limitations on spending and don’t have to make a profit?
Oh what could be done with Case! Case is one of the best brand names in cutlery history. It doesn’t have to be revived, just returned to its glory days. I’d pay the employees their union wages and benefits, but only for quality workmanship. There would be about 30 more patterns in the product line, offered both in carbon steel and 440C or better. There would be stag, MOP, bone, and modern acrylics, micarta and G10, and the latest innovations in “tacticool” and automatics (now that manufacture of automatics is legal in Pennsylvania). And not being required to make a profit, the knives produced would be priced competitively with fine quality cutlery produced anywhere in the world. Until I went bankrupt, like Parker did.
How’s that for a “pipe dream”!![]()
Ken
Same here1967redrider wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:00 pm *Edit- Oh, one knife company . . . I'd make old Catts just like they were once made, and pocket a King of the Woods.![]()
I was thinking the same thing but Camillus, Put China out of the knife business and give GEC a run for their money.ThatWeirdKnifeGuy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:01 pm Since Im rich and turning a profit isn't the goal.....
I'd buy the rights to Colonial. My favorite old knife. I'd bring manufacturing back to the states and hire people off this forum to be my cutlers. We'd bang out quality American made knives and put all of China out of business....right?
This is one of the more interesting ideas posted. I'll indulge your fantasy, what would the name be of your new from scratch knife company be and what would be your first pattern released?
To the contrary, not all Case knives are the same. Those I’d make would be like those made during the Case Tested era. Top quality, having features like blade swages, with long pulls and half-stops where appropriate, no blade rub, etc. There are not a surplus of those around! Plus, as stated previously I would resurrect a lot of the discontinued old patterns that have not been made in decades.
I would start sticking to the basics. The first release would be contain 6 knifes .Barlow, peanut , mini trapper, trapper , stockman ,muskrat.. all handled in material from different price values .wood , synthetic, bone , stag , real pearl, mammoth so I could reach a few different customer bases .from low price everyday users (Like the old timer knifes, high Dollar collectibles (G.E.C ).all lines offered in the best carbon and stainless steel for blade options that I could find and buy or produce my Own blades independently..OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:51 pmThis is one of the more interesting ideas posted. I'll indulge your fantasy, what would the name be of your new from scratch knife company be and what would be your first pattern released?
Agreed. ! Those older tested knifes were really made well .What vault pattern would be your first release?Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:10 pmTo the contrary, not all Case knives are the same. Those I’d make would be like those made during the Case Tested era. Top quality, having features like blade swages, with long pulls and half-stops where appropriate, no blade rub, etc. There are not a surplus of those around! Plus, as stated previously I would resurrect a lot of the discontinued old patterns that have not been made in decades.![]()
Ken
Those patterns would be a great start, and with the different handle materials you mentioned would offer a lot of initial variety from those 6 patterns. Now, the name of your company on the tangstamp of your knives would be???Thomasg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:53 amI would start sticking to the basics. The first release would be contain 6 knifes .Barlow, peanut , mini trapper, trapper , stockman ,muskrat.. all handled in material from different price values .wood , synthetic, bone , stag , real pearl, mammoth so I could reach a few different customer bases .from low price everyday users (Like the old timer knifes, high Dollar collectibles (G.E.C ).all lines offered in the best carbon and stainless steel for blade options that I could find and buy or produce my Own blades independently..OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:51 pmThis is one of the more interesting ideas posted. I'll indulge your fantasy, what would the name be of your new from scratch knife company be and what would be your first pattern released?
I’m unsure what Case considers to be vault patterns. Their “Vault Program” is a relatively recent phenomenon.Thomasg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:06 amAgreed. ! Those older tested knifes were really made well .What vault pattern would be your first release?Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:10 pmTo the contrary, not all Case knives are the same. Those I’d make would be like those made during the Case Tested era. Top quality, having features like blade swages, with long pulls and half-stops where appropriate, no blade rub, etc. There are not a surplus of those around! Plus, as stated previously I would resurrect a lot of the discontinued old patterns that have not been made in decades.![]()
Ken
..."I was a Federal employee for 20 years"...That really explains why you are how you are now, Dog!GSPTOPDOG wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:52 am"No limitations on spending and don’t have to make a profit?"Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:57 pm No limitations on spending and don’t have to make a profit?
Ken...I think that is known as "The Federal Government" * ... You want them making "quality" knives?
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Madmarco wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:09 am..."I was a Federal employee for 20 years"...That really explains why you are how you are now, Dog!GSPTOPDOG wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:52 am"No limitations on spending and don’t have to make a profit?"Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:57 pm No limitations on spending and don’t have to make a profit?
Ken...I think that is known as "The Federal Government" * ... You want them making "quality" knives?
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*Opps!I mention the Feds...
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are the crybabies going demand that AAPK strike my post? ...
By the way... I WAS a Federal employee for 20 years.... I know how the system works....
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Don't be ashamed, Dog,GSPTOPDOG wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:35 pmMadmarco wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 3:09 am..."I was a Federal employee for 20 years"...That really explains why you are how you are now, Dog!GSPTOPDOG wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:52 am
"No limitations on spending and don’t have to make a profit?"
Ken...I think that is known as "The Federal Government" * ... You want them making "quality" knives?
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*Opps!I mention the Feds...
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are the crybabies going demand that AAPK strike my post? ...
By the way... I WAS a Federal employee for 20 years.... I know how the system works....
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T.E.G. The initials of my name over American made .After all it’s my company .lolOLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:59 amThose patterns would be a great start, and with the different handle materials you mentioned would offer a lot of initial variety from those 6 patterns. Now, the name of your company on the tangstamp of your knives would be???Thomasg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:53 amI would start sticking to the basics. The first release would be contain 6 knifes .Barlow, peanut , mini trapper, trapper , stockman ,muskrat.. all handled in material from different price values .wood , synthetic, bone , stag , real pearl, mammoth so I could reach a few different customer bases .from low price everyday users (Like the old timer knifes, high Dollar collectibles (G.E.C ).all lines offered in the best carbon and stainless steel for blade options that I could find and buy or produce my Own blades independently..OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:51 pm
This is one of the more interesting ideas posted. I'll indulge your fantasy, what would the name be of your new from scratch knife company be and what would be your first pattern released?
That sounds like a great plan .when I first got into collecting I started with case trapper knifes .limited runs and special factory orders .Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:42 pmI’m unsure what Case considers to be vault patterns. Their “Vault Program” is a relatively recent phenomenon.Thomasg wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:06 amAgreed. ! Those older tested knifes were really made well .What vault pattern would be your first release?Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:10 pm
To the contrary, not all Case knives are the same. Those I’d make would be like those made during the Case Tested era. Top quality, having features like blade swages, with long pulls and half-stops where appropriate, no blade rub, etc. There are not a surplus of those around! Plus, as stated previously I would resurrect a lot of the discontinued old patterns that have not been made in decades.![]()
KenMany of the patterns I would have made pre-date the “Vault” marketing scheme, so they’re unlikely considered vault patterns, just discontinued.
In my list would be several whittlers, including not only the more common 08 and 83 patterns, but also the 87 gunstock, 76-1/2 sleeveboard and 91 cigar. Some of the larger patterns like the 6100, the toothpicks, the 050 (large coke bottle), the switchblade “Zippers”, the 71 switchblade. Barlows, 99-1/2 “Railsplitter”, and several of the large stockmans and cattle knives (like the 047 and 45). The 94 gunboat and 94-1/2, and the large Congress. The possibilities are vast! Stag, modern acrylics, G10, micarta, with modern steels as well as traditional CV versions.
Tooling up the abandoned patterns would no doubt be expensive, but since we're dreaming that money is no barrier, I'd also be funding R&D for new designs including modern designs (automatics included).
Ken