Page 2 of 9
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 12:35 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Dan In MI wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:18 pm
Generally.....
Thank you Dan, I appreciate it.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:20 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
This afternoon I added two more "cards" to the "deck." Both are WESTERN U.S.A., single blade, lockback pocket knives.
Both have the same blade etch and tang stamp. These are both from a proof set or from proof sets that someone broke up. My complete proof set can be viewed on page 1. They didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here they are.
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:29 pm
by Papa Bones
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:20 pm
This afternoon I added these two "cards" to the "deck." Both are single blade, lockback pocket knives.
Both have the same blade etch and tang stamp.
A couple more awesome finds Skip!!
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:46 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Thank you Smitty.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 am
by Ripster
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:20 pm
This afternoon I added these two "cards" to the "deck." Both are single blade, lockback pocket knives.
Both have the same blade etch and tang stamp. These are both from a proof set or from proof
sets that someone broke up. They didn't require any cleaning at all. I took some pictures and
here they are.
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
Well played. Wonder how many of the sets remain together with all 5 pieces ?
This has been an interesting ,and informative thread thanks to all who have shared here .
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:30 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Ripster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 am
Well.....
Thank you JP.
I don't know how many of the 750 proof sets have stayed complete.
I do know that I've only seen one other complete proof set besides mine (Vit_213).
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:00 am
by Vit_213
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:30 am
I do know that I've only seen one other complete proof set besides mine (Vit_213).
This set is especially dear to me.
In January 2014, I saw it on ebay, but the seller refused to ship it to Russia. I really wanted this set and asked Tom Williams for help.
From that moment until his death, Tom Williams helped me with the purchase of knives on ebay.
In addition, we started an active e-mail correspondence, from which I learned a lot of interesting things about Camillus.
I published part of this correspondence on the BF -
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/tom ... f.1212906/
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:07 am
by Ripster
Vit_213 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:00 am
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:30 am
I do know that I've only seen one other complete proof set besides mine (Vit_213).
This set is especially dear to me.
In January 2014, I saw it on ebay, but the seller refused to ship it to Russia. I really wanted this set and asked Tom Williams for help.
From that moment until his death, Tom Williams helped me with the purchase of knives on ebay.
In addition, we started an active e-mail correspondence, from which I learned a lot of interesting things about Camillus.
I published part of this correspondence on the BF -
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/tom ... f.1212906/
That’s very nice that Mr. Williams was able to help you. Do you still have trouble getting sellers to send you things. Would be willing to help you if you like . Thanks for posting that link ,great stuff
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:16 pm
by jerryd6818
Tom Williams was a superb human being.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:45 am
by Vit_213
Ripster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:07 am
Would be willing to help you if you like .
Thanks for the suggestion. I will bear this in mind.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:39 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Ripster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 am
Well.....
Now I have to put together another full set, but another full set that has the CAMILLUS
tang stamp. I already have the King (page 1). This will not be an easy task. In fact, it may
be impossible. I don't know if they made a 10, Jack, Queen & Ace with the CAMILLUS tang
stamp. We will see.....
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:50 am
by Ripster
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:39 pm
Ripster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:00 am
Well.....
Now I have to put together another full set, but another full set that has the CAMILLUS
tang stamp. I already have the King (page 1). This will not be an easy task. In fact, it may
be impossible. I don't know if they made a 10, Jack, Queen & Ace with the CAMILLUS tang
stamp. We will see.....
Your up for a good challenge aren’t you? It is a interesting ? Did Camillus put there stamp on any of those type ?
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:01 am
by Vit_213
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:39 pm
I don't know if they made a 10, Jack, Queen & Ace with the CAMILLUS tang
stamp.
There is one more version - etched tang
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:36 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Vit_213 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:01 am
There.....
Thank you Vit_213.
Something else to hunt for.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:46 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Ripster wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:50 am
Your.....
Hi JP, as I previously mentioned, I only have these 2 Kings with a CAMILLUS tang STAMP (pictured below & on page 1).
Vit_213 just posted an Ace with a CAMILLUS tang STAMP and a 10 with a CAMILLUS tang ETCH.
Just another fork in the CAMILLUS collecting road.
There's a 10 with a CAMILLUS tang ETCH (not mine) on page 1.
The other side tang stamp reads HD-3 - 440 S.S. - USA.
Or:
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 02#p891699
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:51 pm
by Ripster
New_Windsor_NY wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:46 pm
Ripster wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:50 am
Your.....
Hi JP, as I previously mentioned, I only have these 2 Kings with a CAMILLUS tang STAMP (pictured below & on page 1).
Vit_213 just posted an Ace with a CAMILLUS tang STAMP and a 10 with a CAMILLUS tang ETCH.
Just another fork in the CAMILLUS collecting road.
There's a 10 with a CAMILLUS tang ETCH (not mine) on page 1.
The other side tang stamp reads HD-3 - 440 S.S. - USA.
Or:
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 02#p891699
Yes, the fork in the Camillus Collecting road, between you,Vit and others, maybe we’ll see a few more full sets put together or emerge from some place . Enjoy your Sunday out there Skip
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:23 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Ripster wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:51 pm
Yes.....
Thank you JP, you as well.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:52 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
This afternoon I added another "card" to the "deck." It is a CAMILLUS, "Queen Of Hearts", single blade, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It has a CAMILLUS, NOT a WESTERN tang stamp. This is my third "card" pocket knife with a CAMILLUS tang stamp, but it's my first Queen. The other two CAMILLUS tang stamped "cards", both Kings, are in the last picture posted below. They are also pictured in the first post on page 1. Two "cards" down and three "cards" to go, to complete a set of CAMILLUS tang STAMPED, not etched, "card" pocket knives. A complete ETCHED tang stamp set will be another quest. It didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:22 am
by Dan In MI
Looks great, Skip. Congratulations, and good luck completing your royal flush!
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 2:05 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Dan In MI wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:22 am
Looks.....
Thank you Dan.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:29 pm
by zzyzzogeton
In answer to many questions about it,
YES, the full set was made with both WESTERN and CAMILLUS stamps.
The ones with the WESTERN stamp are from 1996/1997, depending on how you read the advertising.
On 9 December 1996 (date on the flyer), Camillus printed a 6 page flyer titled "1997 New Product Introductions".
Page 5 of this flyer lists the WESTERN Duralens® Gambler Lockbacks - Suggested Retail $22.95
WD110 - 10 of Hearts
WD111 - Jack of Hearts
WD112 - Queen of Hearts
WD113 - King of Hearts
WD114 - Ace of Hearts
This page also depicts the FOUR OF A KIND Money clips, No Tools - Suggested Retail - $7.95
WD215 - King of Hearts
WD216 - King of Diamonds
WD217 - King of Spades
WD218 - King of Clubs
The Gambler series shows up in the 1996/7 flyer AND the 1997 Price Sheet AND the 1999 Price Sheet but NOT in the 1998 Price Sheet. The FOAK money clips show in the same flyer and in the 1997 Price Sheet, the 1998 Price Sheet AND the 1999 Price Sheet.
As for when the CAMILLUS stamped versions were made, I have NOT located that date. Looking through the Camillus catalogs and price sheets that I either have or have perused online, I can find no reference to the Gambler knives.
The CD872, the Queen of Hearts multi-tool, appears in the 2001 and 2002 Price Sheets, and in the 2003 catalog but NOT in the 2003 Price Sheet.
My guess, and it is only a guess until someone discovers an advertisement or other documentation, is that the CAMILLUS stamped Gambler series were 2001 to 2003, the same time frame as the Queen of Hearts multi-tool.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 1:26 am
by Ripster
zzyzzogeton wrote: ↑Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:29 pm
In answer to many questions about it,
YES, the full set was made with both WESTERN and CAMILLUS stamps.
The ones with the WESTERN stamp are from 1996/1997, depending on how you read the advertising.
On 9 December 1996 (date on the flyer), Camillus printed a 6 page flyer titled "1997 New Product Introductions".
Page 5 of this flyer lists the WESTERN Duralens® Gambler Lockbacks - Suggested Retail $22.95
WD110 - 10 of Hearts
WD111 - Jack of Hearts
WD112 - Queen of Hearts
WD113 - King of Hearts
WD114 - Ace of Hearts
This page also depicts the FOUR OF A KIND Money clips, No Tools - Suggested Retail - $7.95
WD215 - King of Hearts
WD216 - King of Diamonds
WD217 - King of Spades
WD218 - King of Clubs
The Gambler series shows up in the 1996/7 flyer AND the 1997 Price Sheet AND the 1999 Price Sheet but NOT in the 1998 Price Sheet. The FOAK money clips show in the same flyer and in the 1997 Price Sheet, the 1998 Price Sheet AND the 1999 Price Sheet.
As for when the CAMILLUS stamped versions were made, I have NOT located that date. Looking through the Camillus catalogs and price sheets that I either have or have perused online, I can find no reference to the Gambler knives.
The CD872, the Queen of Hearts multi-tool, appears in the 2001 and 2002 Price Sheets, and in the 2003 catalog but NOT in the 2003 Price Sheet.
My guess, and it is only a guess until someone discovers an advertisement or other documentation, is that the CAMILLUS stamped Gambler series were 2001 to 2003, the same time frame as the Queen of Hearts multi-tool.
ZZ , great info . Thanks much for taking the time to put that out there . Does answers some questions . Take care .
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:25 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
This pocket knife arrived yesterday afternoon and it became the latest "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a CAMILLUS, "Queen Of Hearts", single blade, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It has a CAMILLUS, NOT a WESTERN tang stamp. This is my fourth "card" pocket knife with a CAMILLUS tang stamp. I now have two King Of Hearts and two Queen Of Hearts with a CAMILLUS tang stamp. It didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:20 am
by New_Windsor_NY
This pocket knife arrived today and it became the most recent "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a CAMILLUS, "10 Of Hearts", single blade, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It has a CAMILLUS tang ETCH, NOT a tang stamp. This is my first "card" pocket knife, CAMILLUS or WESTERN, with a tang ETCH. Yet ANOTHER "variation" of these "card" pocket knives that I have to put together a complete a set of. It didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
Re: Not Playing With A Full Deck.....
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:15 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Yesterday, this pocket knife arrived and it became the most recent "card" to be added to the "deck." It is a WESTERN U.S.A., "10 Of Hearts", single blade, one tang stamp, 3 1/8" closed, lockback pocket knife. It didn't need any cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
