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I posted this in Mail Call yesterday but I think it also belongs here.........

My A.G.Russell Curved Regular Jack came yesterday. Someone else commented that he thought these might be 2nds and I'm of a mind to agree with him. It's a fairly nice knife but it has a couple or three "defects". Nothing terribly awful but defects just the same. Sorry to be nit picky but just not perfect.
#1, a notch in the liner. #2 Liner stands slightly proud of the handle. #3 Space between the liner and the back spring.

I’ve seen these and other defects in other brands of knives. I think it comes down to how strict QC is.

He's got more. At least one anyway but it's an auction this time.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-G-AG-RUSSELL ... 0290.m3507

I dearly wish I had found this thread much sooner.
Note to self; spend more time on AAPK!!

For those of you that do not know me, I work for AG Russell Knives.
Some facts about how we ensure our quality for our customers:

All knives are inspected 100% at our facility here in Rogers Arkansas.
The knives that pass our inspection regimen are the knives you buy from us.
Knives that fail our inspection for a small aesthetic feature (small gap or crack in bone handle etc) are notched in the tang and sold by us as Seconds.
Knives that fail our inspection for major issues are destroyed by us.

All knives we sell (including seconds) will always be in the original AG Russell packaging.
We NEVER sell rejects (or any knives for that matter) to resellers or dealers. EVER!

I am afraid you have been purchasing Pirated knives from this seller.
Needless to say I would like to chat with the seller to try to learn how these knives made it into the US.
Sadly the eBay listings are long gone.
Did these knives ship to you from the US or overseas?
I would be very grateful if one of you would share the sellers eBay username or contact information with me.

A.G. Russell devoted his life to ensuring the High Quality of his knives.
We intend to stay on A.G.s’ path.

Thanks for the intel Phil. I'm not far for you and go to the store quite often . Really wondered about those knives. Thanks for clearing this up.
Doug
P.s. I really miss A.G.

Phil Gibbs wrote:I dearly wish I had found this thread much sooner.
Note to self; spend more time on AAPK!!

For those of you that do not know me, I work for AG Russell Knives.
Some facts about how we ensure our quality for our customers:

All knives are inspected 100% at our facility here in Rogers Arkansas.
The knives that pass our inspection regimen are the knives you buy from us.
Knives that fail our inspection for a small aesthetic feature (small gap or crack in bone handle etc) are notched in the tang and sold by us as Seconds.
Knives that fail our inspection for major issues are destroyed by us.

All knives we sell (including seconds) will always be in the original AG Russell packaging.
We NEVER sell rejects (or any knives for that matter) to resellers or dealers. EVER!

I am afraid you have been purchasing Pirated knives from this seller.
Needless to say I would like to chat with the seller to try to learn how these knives made it into the US.
Sadly the eBay listings are long gone.
Did these knives ship to you from the US or overseas?
I would be very grateful if one of you would share the sellers eBay username or contact information with me.

A.G. Russell devoted his life to ensuring the High Quality of his knives.
We intend to stay on A.G.s’ path.

The sellers eBay ID is happylittledalek and he/she is located in Albany, New York. He/she sells all kinds of plunder. The listings look like an online garage sale. ---► https://www.ebay.com/sch/happylittledal ... 7675.l2562

Phil Gibbs wrote:I dearly wish I had found this thread much sooner.
Note to self; spend more time on AAPK!!

For those of you that do not know me, I work for AG Russell Knives.
Some facts about how we ensure our quality for our customers:

All knives are inspected 100% at our facility here in Rogers Arkansas.
The knives that pass our inspection regimen are the knives you buy from us.
Knives that fail our inspection for a small aesthetic feature (small gap or crack in bone handle etc) are notched in the tang and sold by us as Seconds.
Knives that fail our inspection for major issues are destroyed by us.

All knives we sell (including seconds) will always be in the original AG Russell packaging.
We NEVER sell rejects (or any knives for that matter) to resellers or dealers. EVER!

I am afraid you have been purchasing Pirated knives from this seller.
Needless to say I would like to chat with the seller to try to learn how these knives made it into the US.
Sadly the eBay listings are long gone.
Did these knives ship to you from the US or overseas?
I would be very grateful if one of you would share the sellers eBay username or contact information with me.

A.G. Russell devoted his life to ensuring the High Quality of his knives.
We intend to stay on A.G.s’ path.

Thank you, Phil.

I bought one of these from this seller. If you don't mind my asking, what exactly do you mean by "Pirated"? Are these counterfeit knives?

Airborne 1 wrote:Thanks for the intel Phil. I'm not far for you and go to the store quite often . Really wondered about those knives. Thanks for clearing this up.
Doug
P.s. I really miss A.G.

Thanks Doug.
Please look me up next time you visit.

jerryd6818 wrote: The sellers eBay ID is happylittledalek and he/she is located in Albany, New York. He/she sells all kinds of plunder. The listings look like an online garage sale. ---► https://www.ebay.com/sch/happylittledal ... 7675.l2562

Thank you Sir.
I owe you a favor!

Railsplitter wrote: Thank you, Phil.

I bought one of these from this seller. If you don't mind my asking, what exactly do you mean by "Pirated"? Are these counterfeit knives?

Glad to answer any question I can on this wonderful forum!
I do not believe these are "counterfeit" knives.
More likely defective knives that somehow leaked out of the Chinese Factory IMHO.

If I discover more I will share it here.

Phil Gibbs wrote:

jerryd6818 wrote: The sellers eBay ID is happylittledalek and he/she is located in Albany, New York. He/she sells all kinds of plunder. The listings look like an online garage sale. ---► https://www.ebay.com/sch/happylittledal ... 7675.l2562

Thank you Sir.
I owe you a favor!

Phil, you don't owe me anything. That's just the way we roll here on AAPK.

Quote: "More likely defective knives that somehow leaked out of the Chinese Factory"
Yes and i think it is common place and they get sold in bulk lots. But where ? There obviously are some USA ebay sellers who know.
Maybe on Alibaba ?
kj

https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-G-Russel-Fol ... Swr0RdnL46


Are these more of the bootleg A.G.R s. @Phil Gibbs

I would certainly bet they are. Lots of little clues: 1) Both sellers are in New York state, and the cities they list are about an hour apart. 2) Both sellers have a variety of "thrint/antique/junk store" items - and then there are a couple of these knife listings. 3) Price is less than half what they originally sold for, yet they are listed as "New, Old Stock". 4) The pictures look to be stock art, not a picture of the actual knife you will receive.

Airborne 1 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:58 am https://www.ebay.com/itm/A-G-Russel-Fol ... Swr0RdnL46


Are these more of the bootleg A.G.R s. @Phil Gibbs

Thank you very much Sir!!

Hello guys, is this the same knife?
US $30.03 9%OFF | TIGEND AGR folding knife12C27 blade bovine bone + steel handle tactical outdoor camping hunting pocket fruit knives EDC tools
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/nHSQllnS

Dkg wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:31 pm Hello guys, is this the same knife?
US $30.03 9%OFF | TIGEND AGR folding knife12C27 blade bovine bone + steel handle tactical outdoor camping hunting pocket fruit knives EDC tools
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/nHSQllnS

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The knife on the Aliexpress site appears the same, but, no A.G.Russell tang mark and rear of tang is slightly different as the Ali knives don't say China with the blade steel on rear. I would guess they were made in the same place. I bought two of the first ones a few weeks ago and could detect no flaws to be considered "seconds".

Just an observation guys, not an opinion...

TazmanTom18 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:54 pm The knife on the Aliexpress site appears the same, but, no A.G.Russell tang mark and rear of tang is slightly different as the Ali knives don't say China with the blade steel on rear. I would guess they were made in the same place. I bought two of the first ones a few weeks ago and could detect no flaws to be considered "seconds".

Well we are rather picky here!!