Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:31 pm
Thought I'd post a pic of this GRIFFON GERMANY stag sleeveboard before it goes live tonight on ebay.
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Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:05 am
Great looking knife.
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:37 am
I agree, the Griffon XX Germany are nice knives. That's a fine example Scott. German folding knives don't get the respect or interest they deserve so prices are often low.
kj
kj
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:05 am
Here's one of mine. Both blades stamped Griffon XX Worcester and etched Carbo Magnetic Trade Mark. Has the Griffon logo on back. Not sure if the handles are genuine Tortoise shell or celluloid.
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:19 am
Another great looking knife. Nice one, Barry.
I haven't seen that etch before.
I haven't seen that etch before.
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:39 am
Lyle are you thinking that your "Diamond" marked knife was made by Griffon ?
I have at least 2 Diamond marked knives. I will post pics if i can find them.
kj
I have at least 2 Diamond marked knives. I will post pics if i can find them.
kj
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:01 am
That is a real beaut Barry. Thanks for sharing it. I would guess it is celluloid, but, when you look at it with light shining through it, celluloid will be in distinct planes rather than dispersed through the handle while real tortoise will have the colors dispersed and fading throughout in a three dimensional way. But, It is not always easy to see. It would have been made within the time frame of when real tortoise shell was used, albeit towards the end, so it is possible for it to be real.
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 3:46 pm
I know this is an old post.. But I just purchased this Griffon Cutlery Works Ring Turn!
It is on it's way to me.
I hope these scales are at least some kind of real jigged, natural bone/stag...
Kirk
It is on it's way to me.
I hope these scales are at least some kind of real jigged, natural bone/stag...
Kirk
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 4:11 pm
It appears you have a very nice knife.
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Fri May 05, 2017 4:21 pm
Griffon Germany or Griffon USA ?
I have a small Griffon collection but have never seen one with handles like yours.
I have never seen a Griffon Catalog. If they exist would be so helpful to have a copy. I don't even know the range of knives they made.
kj
I have a small Griffon collection but have never seen one with handles like yours.
I have never seen a Griffon Catalog. If they exist would be so helpful to have a copy. I don't even know the range of knives they made.
kj
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:10 pm
The wood on the Lutters knife migh tbe palisander,Loewen Messer used it a lot on their knives.Suppose your knife is post WW2(50-60).Loewen Messer is still activ,but for the last 30 or so years they mainly focus on industry knives.Regards Gus.kootenay joe wrote:Here are 3 Griffon XX Germany knives:
The Pearl 3 3/8" Serpentine pen with a superb Clip blade, saber ground
And a Stag 3 3/8" Serpentine Pen
The 3rd knife is a Lutters, Solingen. It is so beautiful i had to include it. My pics do not capture the amazing deep grain of these handles. I don't know what the wood is, if someone can tell, please post it. I think this is pre WW II, so at least 75 years old. Rare to find mint old German Jacks, not so rare with the Pen knives.
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:28 pm
KJ - Pile side tang stamp is Griffon Cutlery Works Germany if that helps... blew up the photo and can just barely make it out.. I am sure Kirk will get better pics under the Ring Opener thread.. I am not sure if that is jigged bone - my pure guess with photos and without knife in hand is a composition faux jigged handle 
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:13 pm
Thanks Lee! Yes I am truly sweating the handle material... I really hope it's jigged bone at the very least. But my gut says 'faux' should be here this week though, and time will tell!LongBlade wrote:KJ - Pile side tang stamp is Griffon Cutlery Works Germany if that helps... blew up the photo and can just barely make it out.. I am sure Kirk will get better pics under the Ring Opener thread.. I am not sure if that is jigged bone - my pure guess with photos and without knife in hand is a composition faux jigged handle
I have looked for a real jigged bone one for a while now.. hard to come by. Either way it will be pretty nice I think..
Cheers,
Kirk
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:16 pm
'Griffon' Cutlery Works X Xkootenay joe wrote:Griffon Germany or Griffon USA ?
I have a small Griffon collection but have never seen one with handles like yours.
I have never seen a Griffon Catalog. If they exist would be so helpful to have a copy. I don't even know the range of knives they made.
kj
Handles are probably faux jigged stag. But fingers crossed it's at least bone.
Kirk
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:18 pm
bronze4u wrote:'Griffon' Cutlery Works X X Germanykootenay joe wrote:Griffon Germany or Griffon USA ?
I have a small Griffon collection but have never seen one with handles like yours.
I have never seen a Griffon Catalog. If they exist would be so helpful to have a copy. I don't even know the range of knives they made.
kj
Handles are probably faux jigged stag. But fingers crossed it's at least bone.
Kirk
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:18 pm
FRJ wrote:It appears you have a very nice knife.
Thanks! We will soon see...
Kirk
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:39 pm
I had an old 'Tortoise' vintage in question? So I carefully did the 'hot pin test'.. it confirmed it was celluloid.Beechtree wrote:That is a real beaut Barry. Thanks for sharing it. I would guess it is celluloid, but, when you look at it with light shining through it, celluloid will be in distinct planes rather than dispersed through the handle while real tortoise will have the colors dispersed and fading throughout in a three dimensional way. But, It is not always easy to see. It would have been made within the time frame of when real tortoise shell was used, albeit towards the end, so it is possible for it to be real.
Just a suggestion
KM
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:32 pm
This example is not any where near the quality of the others that have been posted. First thank you for all of the information! It allowed me to identify the Bridgeport CT stamp. However, I cannot find another example along the lines of this knife and was wondering if anyone could provide some additional information. Thanks in advance!!
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:45 pm
gmclaney wrote:This example is not any where near the quality of the others that have been posted. First thank you for all of the information! It allowed me to identify the Bridgeport CT stamp. However, I cannot find another example along the lines of this knife and was wondering if anyone could provide some additional information. Thanks in advance!!
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:00 pm
Your knife is missing the handle slabs that were attached to the brass liners. Also pivot pins have been worked on. This can indicate blade replacement, or someone just trying out their hammer on the knife for fun.
The only good thing about this beat up old wreck of a knife is that it shows you are nuts for knives, so you are at the right place because we are all 'nuts for knives' here.
I suggest you 'keep on lookin' for knives everywhere you go, but pass on the beaters & get those that speak to you and are in good shape: full blades, no pieces missing from handles, blades open & close with snap and have no looseness (wiggle when open).
There are lots of great knives in near perfect condition 'out there' so good luck in finding some of them. When you do please post pics here at AAPK.
kj
The only good thing about this beat up old wreck of a knife is that it shows you are nuts for knives, so you are at the right place because we are all 'nuts for knives' here.
I suggest you 'keep on lookin' for knives everywhere you go, but pass on the beaters & get those that speak to you and are in good shape: full blades, no pieces missing from handles, blades open & close with snap and have no looseness (wiggle when open).
There are lots of great knives in near perfect condition 'out there' so good luck in finding some of them. When you do please post pics here at AAPK.
kj
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:28 pm
Here's a Griffon XX in the form of a "Corn Knife". According to the historian at S.C. Johnson Wax, these were given out as sales incentives to their salesmen in 1919 or 1916, I forget now.
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:31 pm
tjmurphy wrote:Here's a Griffon XX in the form of a "Corn Knife". According to the historian at S.C. Johnson Wax, these were given out as sales incentives to their salesmen in 1919 or 1916, I forget now.
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Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:07 pm
Nice example there, tj.
It's nice to see the mark and pile side stamps.
Thanks for posting them here.
gmclaney, thanks for posting your knife.
It's nice to see the mark and pile side stamps.
Thanks for posting them here.
gmclaney, thanks for posting your knife.
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:47 pm
found this at a rummage sale yesterday.
it has the "griffon xx" markings. is there a way to determine place or date of manufacture for these(besides the stamp)?
also, whats this style called? its locking, has a single blade and is about 9.5 inches when open. lock? clasp?
also, whats this style called? its locking, has a single blade and is about 9.5 inches when open. lock? clasp?
Re: A Griffon ......
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:46 am
Welcome to AAPK !
Great knife find, looks to be in excellent condition.
This pattern is a single blade Trapper and size is usually 3 7/8" to 4 1/4" with 4 1/8" being most common.
Yours is also a "lockback".
Griffon made knives in Germany & USA. If yours is not marked "Germany" then it is of USA origin.
Age ? pre WW II and probably after WW I.
Others will be along and may add more or correct what i've posted if need be.
kj
Great knife find, looks to be in excellent condition.
This pattern is a single blade Trapper and size is usually 3 7/8" to 4 1/4" with 4 1/8" being most common.
Yours is also a "lockback".
Griffon made knives in Germany & USA. If yours is not marked "Germany" then it is of USA origin.
Age ? pre WW II and probably after WW I.
Others will be along and may add more or correct what i've posted if need be.
kj