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Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:48 pm
by Meridian_Mike
I would be afraid to try to use a
drill bit for a pin. They would be too hard to peen.
Just my $.02 about that.
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:45 am
by orvet
glennbad wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:07 pm
orvet wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:28 pm
We have a local Ace Hardware that stocks 3 foot lengths of brass also. That is the cheapest I have found.
Do you know what the nickel silver you have been using for pin stock is, dead soft or half hard?
Sorry Glenn, I just saw this post.
The nickel silver I use is half hard. I have some nickel silver that is dead soft; I use it for scale pins sometimes and it works good for that
It is way too soft for pivot pins
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Sun May 01, 2022 1:12 pm
by Nev52
Can anyone tell me where? I can purchase .081 pin stock in nickel silver.
Thanks
Nev
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Sun May 01, 2022 4:22 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
Nev52 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:12 pm
Can anyone tell me where? I can purchase .081 pin stock in nickel silver.
Thanks
Nev
The closest I have found is .079" from Jantz.
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Sun May 01, 2022 4:34 pm
by Nev52
OLDE CUTLER wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 4:22 pm
Nev52 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:12 pm
Can anyone tell me where? I can purchase .081 pin stock in nickel silver.
Thanks
Nev
The closest I have found is .079" from Jantz.
Thanks
I have some.079 from Jantz. It seems .081 is only available in brass. I had an old penknife that had .081 for the blades the .079 just felt to lose for the wear in the tang hole so I drilled everything to .094 so I could match the nickel in the bolsters. Maybe I was too critical, but the blades had no play and good snap.
Regards Nev
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:39 pm
by glennbad
Nev52 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:12 pm
Can anyone tell me where? I can purchase .081 pin stock in nickel silver.
Thanks
Nev
Try Thunderbird Supply
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 3:02 pm
by Nev52
glennbad wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:39 pm
Nev52 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:12 pm
Can anyone tell me where? I can purchase .081 pin stock in nickel silver.
Thanks
Nev
Try Thunderbird Supply
Glen
Thanks for the information. they do have .081 But it said comes in a coil and is dead soft. Can that be used for pins?
Nev
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 8:00 pm
by glennbad
Nev52 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:02 pm
glennbad wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:39 pm
Nev52 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:12 pm
Can anyone tell me where? I can purchase .081 pin stock in nickel silver.
Thanks
Nev
Try Thunderbird Supply
Glen
Thanks for the information. they do have .081 But it said comes in a coil and is dead soft. Can that be used for pins?
Nev
Dang it. I bought from two places, that wasn't the one I was thinking. Try Fire Mountain Gems, they have half hard NS. I think the 12Ga. works out to .081"
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 8:01 pm
by glennbad
And yes, it comes in a coil, so you'll have to straighten it out to use it.
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 1:00 am
by Nev52
Thanks
Nev
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 1:26 am
by Nev52
glennbad wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 8:01 pm
And yes, it comes in a coil, so you'll have to straighten it out to use it.
Thanks again Glen
on my micrometer 14 gauge wire is .082 12 gauge was .089. So I am going to try 14 gauge. I really appreciate the information.
Nev
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 5:03 pm
by Nev52
glennbad wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 8:00 pm
Nev52 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:02 pm
glennbad wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:39 pm
Try Thunderbird Supply
Glen
Thanks for the information. they do have .081 But it said comes in a coil and is dead soft. Can that be used for pins?
Nev
Dang it. I bought from two places, that wasn't the one I was thinking. Try Fire Mountain Gems, they have half hard NS. I think the 12Ga. works out to .081"
You were right Glen .081 is 12-gauge wire . 14 was .064 Now I have both.
Thanks for your help on this matter.
Nev
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:55 am
by orvet
Nev52 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:02 pm
glennbad wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:39 pm
Nev52 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:12 pm
Can anyone tell me where? I can purchase .081 pin stock in nickel silver.
Thanks
Nev
Try Thunderbird Supply
Glen
Thanks for the information. they do have .081 But it said comes in a coil and is dead soft. Can that be used for pins?
Nev
I have used dead soft brass and nickel silver wire to attach handles, but they haven't worked well in my experience as pivot pins or rocker pins.
Wallace Rockwell, from Camillus Cutlery, Had some .081" half hard nickel silver wire on eBay several years ago. I don't know if he has any left now or not. You might be able to contact him through his retail store if you can't find him on eBay.
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:13 pm
by Nev52
Thanks Dale.
Always good to have a few suppliers.
Nev
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:53 pm
by Maddogfl
Miller Bro's wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:23 pm
orvet wrote:Many older knives are made with pins that are not standard proportions with the sizes readily available in the local hardware store or through a knife supply house.
Ever wonder how the old knife companies made all the different size wire they used on pocket knives?
Knife companies bought nickle, brass and steel wire, one size, not all the different sizes they needed for their knives, it did not come in straight lengths like you buy from these modern supply houses either, it came in large rolls.
They used a Wortle plate to size the wire to whatever particular size they wanted.
A Wortle plate is made of steel and it has tapered holes of various sizes through which the larger wire was fed, it was then pulled through the tapered hole and it came out the other side the proper diameter.
Needless to say these plates are very rare and quite honestly if I had one to put in front of a modern knife maker they would have no idea what the hell it was used for.
Just one of the many facts I have uncovered in my ongoing search for the knowledge the early cutlers used to make pocket knives
I did some repair work in a nail factory about 20 years ago. That is the same way they were making nails. The stock was one size, on rolls, stretched to the proper diameter.
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:53 pm
by Bill DeShivs
Those plates are also known as jeweler's draw plates and they are available.
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:45 am
by Folgore1
i think the 14g would work ok if its too big turn it down little bit on drill press , put pin in drill press take file and turn down until it fits in your knives holes . alot of times its really hard to find correct diameter so buy little bigger pin stock and just turn it down a bit on a drill press using a file but be very careful you can make them too small very fast .
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Thanks Bernie ( Folgore Knives)
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:02 pm
by BIGHEAD
Jantz supply is wherr 90% of my pin stock comes from.
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:32 pm
by Eelephant
I could never find pin stock that didn’t need to be sanded down to fit, so I figured if it doesn’t fit anyway, why buy something specialized? I just use nails. Sand them down to size and peen them in.
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:44 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
Eelephant wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:32 pm
I could never find pin stock that didn’t need to be sanded down to fit, so I figured if it doesn’t fit anyway, why buy something specialized? I just use nails. Sand them down to size and peen them in.
The problem with using steel pins in nickle silver bolsters is that they are very visible. Some knives came from the factory with that combo, but most did not.
Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:20 pm
by Walleye
Does anyone know the size of NS pins that Case would have used on modern 65 pattern folding hunters? I am talking about the main pivot pins and the one in the bottom bolster. The brass scale pins seem to be 1/16", and the brass main spring pin appears to be 1/8" or slightly less than that.