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Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:49 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
TPK wrote: āSat Oct 16, 2021 6:53 pm
Interesting.....
Thank you Tom.

Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:51 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Another article from an August 1946, New York newspaper.
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:10 pm
by Paladin
New_Windsor_NY wrote: āSun Oct 17, 2021 5:51 pm
Another article from an August 1946, New York newspaper.
They were my main target when I was a youngster. I remember picking up a wounded one and that little sucker clamped down on my index finger. He kinda had the skin and meat on the palm-side of the finger and it was painful. I had to shake and shake to get him to turn loose.
Ray
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:20 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Another article from an August 1946, New York newspaper.
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:30 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
An article from a September 1946, New York newspaper.
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:32 am
by 1967redrider
These birds have been hanging around the cows all day today, never seen any before. At first my brother thought the chickens were out. White feathered bodies and head, yellow beaks and gray legs. When I tried to get close they would take off. They looked like a cross between a young white turkey and a seagull.

Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:37 am
by Paladin
1967redrider wrote: āSun Oct 24, 2021 1:32 am
These birds have been hanging around the cows all day today, never seen any before. At first my brother thought the chickens were out. White feathered bodies and head, yellow beaks and gray legs. When I tried to get close they would take off. They looked like a cross between a young white turkey and a seagull.
Cattle egrets, maybe?
Ray
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:39 am
by 1967redrider
Paladin wrote: āSun Oct 24, 2021 1:37 am
1967redrider wrote: āSun Oct 24, 2021 1:32 am
These birds have been hanging around the cows all day today, never seen any before. At first my brother thought the chickens were out. White feathered bodies and head, yellow beaks and gray legs. When I tried to get close they would take off. They looked like a cross between a young white turkey and a seagull.
Cattle egrets, maybe?
Ray
Thanks, Ray! Do you think they would be in the Mid-Atlantic mountains? Never seen these before.
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:44 am
by Paladin
Well, we do have them, or similar, here but I have no idea as to their range.
Ray
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:46 am
by 1967redrider
Paladin wrote: āSun Oct 24, 2021 1:44 am
Well, we do have them here, or similar, here but I have no idea as to their range.
Ray
They do seem to gravitate towards the cows.
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:07 am
by Quick Steel
They definitely appear to be cattle egrets in their winter plumage. They like to hang out in fields where cattle stir up insects like grasshoppers. Yours do appear to be a bit farther north than usual which could be due to many reasons: local weather, insect supply, even climate change. They do live in eastern Texsas. Originally from Africa, then to South America. In Hawaii as well.
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:10 am
by 1967redrider
Maybe these are the new norm?

If they eat bugs, especially flies, bring them on.

Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:37 am
by treefarmer
1967redrider,
I'll agree they are what we know as Cattle Egrets here in Florida. They forage along with the cows, grabbing grasshoppers, frogs etc. that are disturbed by the cow's movement through the pasture. They also will pick insects off the cow's back as they graze along. A couple of your pictures show them standing on the backs of the cows that are lying down. Cattle Egrets will also follow a tractor or a lawn mower, same strategy, catching bugs, etc. that are disturbed by the equipment. On many occasions I would start in a field and a lone egret would fly in and land, in a minute or two another and another till you couldn't keep a count. They must have learned to come to the sound of an engine that remains in a general area.
Tried to eat one many years ago, tough doesn't even come close, even after parboiling then pan frying the breast. Good flavor probably due to the seasoning, never again.
Treefarmer
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:53 am
by 1967redrider
treefarmer wrote: āSun Oct 24, 2021 2:37 am
1967redrider,
I'll agree they are what we know as Cattle Egrets here in Florida. They forage along with the cows, grabbing grasshoppers, frogs etc. that are disturbed by the cow's movement through the pasture. They also will pick insects off the cow's back as they graze along. A couple of your pictures show them standing on the backs of the cows that are lying down. Cattle Egrets will also follow a tractor or a lawn mower, same strategy, catching bugs, etc. that are disturbed by the equipment. On many occasions I would start in a field and a lone egret would fly in and land, in a minute or two another and another till you couldn't keep a count. They must have learned to come to the sound of an engine that remains in a general area.
Tried to eat one many years ago, tough doesn't even come close, even after parboiling then pan frying the breast. Good flavor probably due to the seasoning, never again.
Treefarmer
Thanks for the info, tree! I thought about sniping one with the .22 just to get a closer look. But you guys have saved me the trouble.

Plus I didn't know if they were protected or not, don't need any Game Warden run-ins.

Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:12 am
by treefarmer
I just looked up info concerning the Cattle Egrets being protected. They are, as they are considered a migratory bird and are protected by the "Migratory Bird Treaty Act" of 1918. Who knew? Since they originated in Africa and came to Florida in 1941, I suppose they are migratory. Once the weather in the Panhandle cools down we wont generally see them til it warms up in the spring. Maybe they head back to Central or South Florida for the winter, kinda' like some snowbirds.
Treefarmer
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:05 am
by TPK
1967redrider wrote: āSun Oct 24, 2021 1:32 am
These birds have been hanging around the cows all day today, never seen any before. At first my brother thought the chickens were out. White feathered bodies and head, yellow beaks and gray legs. When I tried to get close they would take off. They looked like a cross between a young white turkey and a seagull.
Cool pictures John. I can't remember ever seeing those birds in MD before either.

Of course we moved away from there around 1985 so I probably wouldn't even remember it if I did.

Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:32 pm
by 1967redrider
treefarmer wrote: āSun Oct 24, 2021 4:12 am
I just looked up info concerning the Cattle Egrets being protected. They are, as they are considered a migratory bird and are protected by the "Migratory Bird Treaty Act" of 1918. Who knew? Since they originated in Africa and came to Florida in 1941, I suppose they are migratory. Once the weather in the Panhandle cools down we wont generally see them til it warms up in the spring. Maybe they head back to Central or South Florida for the winter, kinda' like some snowbirds.
Treefarmer
More great info, thanks, tree! Glad I didn't "pull the trigger" for a closer look too.

It seems like they are gone today . . .
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:55 am
by DM11
We've had them here in Kansas for many years. I dont recall seeing any lately for some reason.

Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:12 am
by Quick Steel
In Hawaii, when the sugar cane fields are burned, the egrets come from all over Ohau to feast on the roasted insects and critters. Hundreds of them.
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:55 pm
by joeradza
Iām not much of a bird photographer but when they stand there and pose even I get lucky. Taken at J.R. Ding Darling on Sanibel Island, Florida.
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:12 am
by New_Windsor_NY
joeradza wrote: āMon Oct 25, 2021 11:55 pm
Iām.....
You could've fooled me.
That's a GREAT shot joeradza!
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:15 am
by Waukonda
Quick Steel wrote: āMon Oct 25, 2021 8:12 am
In Hawaii, when the sugar cane fields are burned, the egrets come from all over Ohau to feast on the roasted insects and critters. Hundreds of them.
Garry, that sounds awesome, must be quite a sight!
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:15 am
by joeradza
New_Windsor_NY wrote: āTue Oct 26, 2021 12:12 am
joeradza wrote: āMon Oct 25, 2021 11:55 pm
Iām.....
You could've fooled me.
That's a GREAT shot joeradza!
Thanks Skop. Like I said it stood there like it was trained.
Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:15 am
by Waukonda
joeradza wrote: āMon Oct 25, 2021 11:55 pm
Iām not much of a bird photographer but when they stand there and pose even I get lucky. Taken at J.R. Ding Darling on Sanibel Island, Florida.
Exceptional photo!

Re: Ornithology (Bird) Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:21 am
by joeradza
Waukonda wrote: āTue Oct 26, 2021 12:15 am
joeradza wrote: āMon Oct 25, 2021 11:55 pm
Iām not much of a bird photographer but when they stand there and pose even I get lucky. Taken at J.R. Ding Darling on Sanibel Island, Florida.
Exceptional photo!
Thank you