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Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:54 pm
by BWT
Thanks Lee and Mike for the comments ::tu::

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:45 am
by FRJ
BWT wrote:My first Utica, very well made good looking knife.
Yes Sir, Bill. That is a very good looking knife. ::nod::
What is the actual length?

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:36 pm
by BWT
Thanks Joe for your comments, it is 4 3/4 closed.

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:22 pm
by galvanic1882
BWT wrote:My first Utica, very well made good looking knife. I have never seen this thread before but it was pretty interesting Mikes (Galvanic)post on page one. Thanks for looking. Any thoughts on the handle material?
Here is a picture of the dogleg with similar handles.

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:51 pm
by FRJ
What a beautiful knife, Mike. ::tu::
Hard to tell, is that cap bolster teardrop and pinched? --- Along with slanted and lined.

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:08 pm
by galvanic1882
Thanks and yes to all of those. I have a catalog picture of it but need to dig it out. I looked for one for the big Moose knife but could not find it. I believe that knife is the same frame as the Kit Carson big camp knife they made, it had the same shield

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:52 am
by BWT
Thanks for sharing that Mike, it's one beautiful knife. Handles are very similar for sure, I'm still not sure of the material??

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:38 pm
by galvanic1882
Bill, the handles according to the Utica catalogs I have are called Pyralin. Below is something I got off the internet about what it is.

Pyralin is the name of a plastic created in the late 1800's based on nitrocellulose. Nitrocellulose, also known as celluloid (see scrimshaw.com “ivory boom“), was one of the most extensively used plastics of the time.

The first letter in the pattern number, 4, denotes that it's Pyralin. Hope this helps. Great knife!

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:53 pm
by BWT
It sure did Mike thank you very much ::handshake::

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:28 pm
by wlf
Beautiful knives Bill and Mike. Excellent.

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:25 pm
by BWT
Thanks Lyle for looking and the comments.

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:30 pm
by galvanic1882
Thanks Lyle, Bill I’m going to send you a PM

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:17 pm
by michaelspayth
Just a couple that are a little different than the Utica knives that have been posted in the thread so far.

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:44 am
by New_Windsor_NY
Beautiful Cutlery Everyone! ::tu::
michaelspayth, REALLY like that last/bottom knife! ::tu::

My Question: I think I posted this knife when I first joined AAPK. I don't believe I ever received a definitive answer. What company made this knife? ::shrug:: It has been in my family forever. It was probably my grandfather's to begin with and I've had it since 1982. There are absolutely NO remains of any markings or tang stamp(s). The shield is pinned and the match strike/nail nick is inside the awl/punch if those are clues. It's residence, up until I got it, would've been Westchester, Dutchess and Orange Counties in New York State. I really would like to know about this knife. ::pray:: Is it a Utica?? ::uc:: ***Click On Picture To Enlarge***

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:13 am
by Robo
galvanic1882 wrote:
Campbellclanman wrote:There's some fine old Utica Stamps being shown here!
Heres a nice Utica here - wee Tank of a thing, I really love everything about this Knife, The Bone is ( imo ) stunning, the shield is cool, those big Bolsters are nearly pushing this knife into a Barlow ( Not Quite I know..but.. ), That lovely Big full Main with a beefy Swage and cool Long pull!

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That is one great knife and a hard one to find. As most of you know Utica's are one of my favorite makers. Here is a catalog cut of the knife.


This is the first time I looked through this post--awesome knives! I'm a huge fan of the Utica Toothpick/ticklers/ et al. I collect this pattern and have pretty big pile of them. The handful of Uticas--mostly contract knives for other companies--rank high among my favorites. I've enclosed a couple photos below. I also have a couple questions: Is there a fairly representitive catolog out there that you guys are speaking about? I've seen a few pages here and there in some of the classic early collector's books but never a stand alone catalog. Also, the I've always suspected the Western States Jack knife below was a Utica contract knife--do you agree? thanks in advance for your help!!! --Robo

L to R: Utica Medium Tickler curved stamp, Cutino 5" Muskrat Clip, Henry Sears 5" Saber ground Muskrat clip, Challenge Cut Co. 5" Clip, Unmarked 5" clip, Utica Curved stamp 5" clip.

Western States 4 1/4 Jack

Unmarked Utica Contract sweet pile-side top grind













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Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:28 pm
by galvanic1882
Picked up another nice Utica. Pretty neat alligator on the front handle. Of course I love the etch and has salesman's number scratched on the back of the main blade.

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:10 pm
by kootenay joe
Mike, how old is this one ? 1950's ?
Were there other animals on the handles of this pattern ?
Wonder if these were sold in gift shop of a Florida golf course ?
I like pen knives of any pattern but most get little collector interest.
kj

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:22 pm
by galvanic1882
Pre 1937 for sure. Must have been a special for someone maybe a hardware co.

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:28 am
by michaelspayth
Picked this up a couple days ago.

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:39 pm
by galvanic1882
Nice handles on that knife, not Utica Cutlery though. It’s Utica Knife and Razor. Made in Europe

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:01 pm
by michaelspayth
Had, optimistically, assumed a connection between the two. Thanks for the info!

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2019 7:08 pm
by galvanic1882
Nope 2 different companies

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:59 pm
by galvanic1882
Found this really cool picture of the Utica Cutlery softball team!! I know a few cutlery companies had teams.

I play alot of Senior softball in AZ, Utah, NM and Nevada so this is a cool one for me.

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:27 pm
by FRJ
That's a great picture, Mike.
Nothing half way about that team. Nice looking uniforms and all.
Neat looking gloves those two guys are holding. ::nod:: ::tu::

Re: UTICA !!!

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:39 pm
by Gunsil
Not all UK&R knives were made in Europe. If it is not marked with a European country of origin it is American made. UK&R contracted with Union Cut Co for hunting knives, I don't know who made American pocket knives for them. Most UK&R fixed blades I have or have seen were made in either Germany or Czechoslovakia other than the ones made by Union Cut Co.