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Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:19 pm
by Miller Bro's
Bill, Roland and Lucky dog very nice old knives! ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:20 pm
by Miller Bro's
dtc241079 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:17 pm Hi Guys I’d like to share this one with you.
Here I have an antique sterling silver Boar war officers military campaign folding cutlery set made by John watts Sheffield 1897 with original shank. It can be used as a single knife fork or spoon or if needed you can open half way the spoon and fork and then it can be separated from the knife in the centre and then you have a 3 piece cutlery set.
I like that one a lot, thanks for showing it! ::tu::

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:44 am
by Mason
Nice recent examples shown from 1fartsmella, Kootenay Joe, Luckydog, Miller Bros., and dtc241079.
M.B., that lion's head model from auction is quite unusual, any company name listed in the description?

Enclosed is an uncommon model on a few levels. Made by H.G. Long in the mid-1800s, this lock-back folder is fairly large with a handle length of just over 6 inches. It also features a recessed blade lock which is less common on old Sheffield folders than raised lock-tabs. But the most unusual feature are the folding hand guards which are seldom seen on vintage Sheffield folding knives.

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:26 am
by edge213
Mason wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:44 am Nice recent examples shown from 1fartsmella, Kootenay Joe, Luckydog, Miller Bros., and dtc241079.
M.B., that lion's head model from auction is quite unusual, any company name listed in the description?

Enclosed is an uncommon model on a few levels. Made by H.G. Long in the mid-1800s, this lock-back folder is fairly large with a handle length of just over 6 inches. It also features a recessed blade lock which is less common on old Sheffield folders than raised lock-tabs. But the most unusual feature are the folding hand guards which are seldom seen on vintage Sheffield folding knives.
Wow Mason, that's a great knife!

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:38 am
by wiseguy
Very nice knife Mason ::tu:: thanks for sharing it here.

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:19 pm
by BWT
dtc241079 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 10:17 pm Hi Guys I’d like to share this one with you.
Here I have an antique sterling silver Boar war officers military campaign folding cutlery set made by John watts Sheffield 1897 with original shank. It can be used as a single knife fork or spoon or if needed you can open half way the spoon and fork and then it can be separated from the knife in the centre and then you have a 3 piece cutlery set.
That’s a really good looking knife and the condition ::tu:: ::tu:: Nice find!!

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:21 pm
by BWT
edge213 wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:26 am
Mason wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:44 am Nice recent examples shown from 1fartsmella, Kootenay Joe, Luckydog, Miller Bros., and dtc241079.
M.B., that lion's head model from auction is quite unusual, any company name listed in the description?

Enclosed is an uncommon model on a few levels. Made by H.G. Long in the mid-1800s, this lock-back folder is fairly large with a handle length of just over 6 inches. It also features a recessed blade lock which is less common on old Sheffield folders than raised lock-tabs. But the most unusual feature are the folding hand guards which are seldom seen on vintage Sheffield folding knives.
Wow Mason, that's a great knife!
Mason ::tu:: ::tu:: That is a beautiful knife ::tu:: ::tu:: Great find, nothing not to like about that one!!

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:55 pm
by BWT
Two Joseph Rodgers

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:56 pm
by BWT
IXL Congress

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:57 pm
by BWT
Wade and Butcher double gunstock??

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:00 pm
by BWT
IXL Barlows not really sure they classify as antiques
EF&S Barlow

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:02 pm
by BWT
George Ibberson

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:03 pm
by BWT
Cox and Son South Hampton

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:05 pm
by BWT
Christopher Johnson Ettrick not sure of age on this one

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:09 pm
by BWT
Herbert Slater Venture
J. Nowill and Son probably not antiques for sure

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:10 pm
by BWT
George Bradshaw 6 inches in length
Wade and Butcher

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:13 pm
by BWT
Last but not the least, but my favorite it was my dads.
IXL Celebrated 1860-1870 ebony with alligator snap

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:29 pm
by DM11
Those are all nice Bill. Really like the last one also!

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:35 pm
by danno50
Bill, four very nice pearl IXLs. ::tu:: And a great variety of makers and styles posted after them. I like them all but, a few in particular are the double gunstock, the jigged bone handled Joseph Rodgers, the Ibberson stockman and the last IXL Celebrated. In my limited experience, I have not seen jigged bone on a Joseph Rodgers. Is that unusual?
Roland, beautiful 5 blade Rodgers. ::tu:: I really like the bolsters.
Lovely stag on the IXL whittler, luckydog. ::tu::
Excellent John Watts cutlery set, dtc241079. ::tu:: I like that one a lot.
Exceptional H.G. Long lock-back. ::tu:: And thanks for the comments on its unusual features.

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:23 pm
by BWT
Thanks Dan for all the comments!! That’s a great question about the jigged handles. I’m sure I have less knowledge than you about it. I believe that tang stamp was 1870-1900 or so, but it has England so it is after 1890. Maybe Dimitri or someone will know the answer about the handles? I don’t collect any certain patterns or maker, 90% of mine are pre WW1.

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:51 pm
by 1fartsmella
There are some wonderful examples showing up in this thread.
This one is stamped WEISS & SON / 62 STRAND. It's 6 1/8" closed and 11" open. Has fancy threaded integral bolsters / liners. And also sports a recessed blade lock like the knife Mason posted a few pages back.
I found some info on this cutler from an old issue, June 2009 Knife World.
From 1787 to 1811 they were at 42 Strand
From 1811 to 1822 they went to 33 Strand
From 1823 to 1868 they worked at 62 Strand
After that they were at 287 Oxford.

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:57 pm
by BWT
Very nice Barry ::tu:: ::tu:: That’s a really nice old English knife for sure!!

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:11 pm
by danno50
Exceptional knife, Barry. ::tu:: There is a lot to love about that one.

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:17 pm
by BWT
DM11 wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:29 pm Those are all nice Bill. Really like the last one also!
Thanks David for the comments!

Re: Antique Knives Made In England

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:54 am
by kootenay joe
Here is a well used 4 1/8" Champagne Pattern knife with "The Melton" deeply etched on the main blade. It has the old style corkscrew that looks like 2 strands of steel wrapped together. The Champagne wire cutter blade has serrations on both sides of the edge. The Button Hook blade seems unusual for this pattern. On the back beside the corkscrew is a stout hollow tube tool that i do not know it's function or name.
It did have slide in tools at the master end, likely a pick & tweezers but they are missing now.
Tang is marked "ART" in an oval beside "Geo"/Butler & Co./Sheffield"
The back side of the Champagne Wire Cutter blade has a logo of a diamond shape with a circle on top of it and "I" "3" "E" and "M" and 3 ? other letters i cannot make out.
kj