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Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 3:15 am
by kootenay joe
Here's one that is great for small children. The blade is thin enough to be flexible and with a perfectly round end it is a great peanut butter or jam spreader. Small children like to wave a knife around once they have it in hand but they have no idea where the blade tip is. As such even with supervision they and others are in harms way because children will wave the knife around but their nervous system as yet does not give information on position in space. With this round tip that is not sharpened around the curve, things are considerably safer.
It comes as a single blade but i can't find mine so i'm showing it in a multiblade SAK.
kj

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 4:25 pm
by kootenay joe
Here's a knife in what i hope is the original box. The printing on box is in English & German and stamped on box end is "Electrician". Knife is 93mm closed. Cross on handle is not in a shield or painted red. Tang has: "Victorinox/Switzerland/Stainless/Rostfrei"
Sorry about the shadows reflected by the blade.
Can anyone date this ? Is it an uncommon one ?
thanks, kj

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 4:33 pm
by kootenay joe
Here is an unusual Victorinox, maybe it is not an SAK ?
4 1/4" Stag handles, 3 blades for hunting plus corkscrew and awl; master blade marked: "Victorinox/Switzerland/Stainless/Rostfrei"
This size and pattern has been made by many Solingen knife manufacturers. It is a common German folding knife for hunting (they Always have a corkscrew as it is traditional to have a swill of grog when the animal is down).
kj

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:37 pm
by cody6268
kootenay joe wrote:Here is an unusual Victorinox, maybe it is not an SAK ?
4 1/4" Stag handles, 3 blades for hunting plus corkscrew and awl; master blade marked: "Victorinox/Switzerland/Stainless/Rostfrei"
This size and pattern has been made by many Solingen knife manufacturers. It is a common German folding knife for hunting (they Always have a corkscrew as it is traditional to have a swill of grog when the animal is down).
kj

Technically a GAK (German Army Knife), as this is where the size (108mm originated), of which there were several models, of which yours was top of the line. Yours is called the Stag Hunter. If I remember, a German maker actually made the German Army Knife first and Adler Messer bought parts from Victorinox and made them up until the '90s for the Bundeswehr. Yours is missing a metal saw cover. Mine did too, but I got one from a German member on another forum. Doesn't make sense--why put a corkscrew on an army issue knife? Wouldn't a Phillips screwdriver be a better idea?

The saw cover on this cheap China made copy of my knife might work as a replacement. Mil-Tec GAK from SMKW. Just don't use the copy--the Mil-Tec copies are the lowest quality of all the different GAK makes.

https://www.smkw.com/west-german-bundes ... tary-knife

Here's my 108mm German Army Knife, made by Victorinox too
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Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:37 am
by kootenay joe
Cody, thanks for the SAK info on my knives.
The reason for the corkscrew is that it is traditional in Germany to have a corkscrew on a hunting knife.
My son-in-law is of German heritage and lives in Northern Italy close to the border with Austria (i.e. in the Alps). He & my daughter hunt for Red Deer which is a smaller version of our elk. He sent me pics once of a successful hunt and it showed him blowing on a very long horn. This sound echoes through the surrounding mountains announcing to all the success (and tells those at home you likely will be late for dinner as the villages are in the mountains where the hunting occurs.
He also carries a sack of wine, but it could also be wine in a bottle. When the animal is field dressed the wine is uncorked and a celebratory toast with hunting partners occurs before the work of dragging the animal back to your car. (yes car, not truck in those areas).
The horn & the wine are important aspects of the hunt in that part of Europe.
kj

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:49 pm
by kootenay joe
Cody, thanks for telling me that my Stag Victorinox 'Hunter' knife is basically a GAK, of which i have 7. Two are the 2 blade Victorinox both of which have the metal saw guard. One is a 3 blade Victorinox. Two are "I.C.A.R.", one is "CCM" and one is "Mil-Tek" and it too has the metal saw guard.
kj

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:10 am
by kootenay joe
Here is a new arrival, just under 4" "Elsener Schwyz / Swiss Made" with "42" on the back tang. Solid sturdy knife.
kj

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:34 pm
by kootenay joe
This is a 3" pen knife marked on master front tang: Victorinox/Switzerland/Stainless/Rostfrei; and on the back "Victoria" with a crossbow through it.
The handles look to be real tortoise yet these markings indicate fairly recent manufacture.
If you have any information about this knife i would appreciate it getting posted.
thanks, kj

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:12 pm
by kootenay joe
Here are 3 Alox SAK and a question.
First up is a new release i think, the Pioneer X, which is the same as the Farmer except it has scissors in place of a saw.
Second is an Orange Alox Farmer.
Third is a Pioneer Harvester. It is the same as the Farmer except it has a small Hawkbill blade in place of the can opener/small screwdriver.
The names i have given are on the sealed boxes they came in. But are they correct ? The Pioneer Harvester and the Farmer are close to the same. Is the full name for the Farmer, the Pioneer Farmer ?
thanks for any help with getting names correct.
kj

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:39 pm
by cato
nice ones,,,

here is a WENGER TAHARA SOLDIER I THINK

MAYBE ORIGINAL POUCH

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:52 pm
by kootenay joe
Cato, your Wenger Tahara Soldier looks similar to the Elsener Schwyz i posted above. Are these the same pattern, made to Swiss Army specs. one by Wenger & the other by Elsener ?
kj

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:07 am
by cato
Think so, this has wenger over tahara on main and a p on the backside

which means it was a private sale or public sale not army issue i believe

all i know , wish ole junebug would show up

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:30 am
by jmh58
Lets pump some life into this!!! HUH???? John :D

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:25 am
by gsmith7158
Here's one for big kids. 4 3/4 inches closed.

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 11:47 am
by mountainad82
I received this Victorinox 108mm Trooper knife as a gift from my parents in the early 80's. It was branded as a Swiss Army Officer's Knife. Has anyone else seen this knife branded as such?

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 12:16 pm
by TripleF
Knice collection Joe!!

I must say a VIC SAK Classic is what made me aware of knife carry daily. It was probably 17 years ago and this fellow ordered some with his business name printed on them (Ad specialties is my main gig)....and he gifted me one. I lost his but can confidently say there's not a day
since then that I haven't carried a SAK of some size.

Right now I'm toting this one...

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:14 pm
by jerryd6818
Greg, here's it's brother. The Wenger Ranger 51 with a pushbutton lock release. It is not assisted.

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 11:57 pm
by Toejammer
I know Hoffritz was an importer, and most of their SAK's were made by Victorinox, but I'm not sure about this one. Tang stamped Hoffritz NY over Made in Germany. My understanding was that after WWII German imports were branded with West Germany, making this pre war. I'm confused,... but it's a nifty, well built SAK for sure !

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Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:36 am
by deltaboy
Thanks for all the information . ::tu:: I gotten the SAK BUG bad. ::tu::

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:57 pm
by toolboy
I was honored to receive this Tie-Tac from Charles and Veronika Elsener after they had bought several vintage, USA made,
knives from my table at the 2011 Blade Show. They were acquiring knives to put in the museum at their USA headquarters.
A very delightful, and down to earth, couple. They had employees that served as a translator and negotiator.

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:22 pm
by kootenay joe
Neat, so now i bet you wear a tie to knife shows.
kj

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:49 pm
by jmh58
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Wenger Evo-grip 18.. Keep thisun in my daypack.. John :D

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:09 pm
by eveled
The 4 blade Victorinox in the background, was my very first knife. It has a quarter round awl, no toothpick or tweezers. It also had a relatively fancy bail.

I got it in 1975, from my Dad. He mentioned at work that I had asked for a knife. One of his co workers gave him this knife to give me. It was a time before multitools, there weren't even complex SAKs around.

I used it for everything, tightened every screw I could find, drilled 1000 holes with the awl, opened every can my mother needed, chose soda in glass bottles so I could use the opener (even if it was a twist off). I would have killed for a wine bottle to open. Suffice to say I was not surprised at all by what the original Mc Giver could do with his.

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:45 pm
by mrwatch
postby eveled ยป Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:09 pm

The 4 blade Victorinox in the background, was my very first knife. It has a quarter round awl,

one of mine has a Phillips head screw driver that has nail file . took me years to find it. LOL One has a plain awl and the other has a hole for leather sewing. as per a YouTube video.

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:53 pm
by knife7knut
Here is a collector's set I picked up at the flea market yesterday for $50. Supposed to be worth a lot of money.