All About Pocket Knives

Thanks for the pics Grant. The master blade on this knife appears to be slightly hollow ground. I think Schrade called it Kon Kav ground. I might be looking at it wrong.

With the knife in hand, can you see any sign of bolster pins?

jerryd6818 wrote:With the knife in hand, can you see any sign of bolster pins?

Yes sir Jerry it has bolster pins.

The blades look similar to schrade, but the bone definitely does not. I think it's an ulster.

You can usually spot the difference between a schrade/ulster and a camillus because the blades on the schrade/ulster are larger, particularly the coping blade. As Grant said you can also tell because of the match strike pull of a camillus, which schrade did not do on the 863 and it's variants.

DM11 wrote:

jerryd6818 wrote:With the knife in hand, can you see any sign of bolster pins?

Yes sir Jerry it has bolster pins.

David all this detective work is what I enjoy about these 72 clones.

Camillus made a wood handle 72 the called a Camillus 5 this knife did not have a matchstick pull.
The only Ulster 63 I have are Delrin handle and a Kon Kav grind on one side.
I have some Craftsman 9492 ( 72 clones ) made by Imperial.
It looks like that Imperial made knives for Craftsman under the names of Ulster, Schrade and Imperial.

How to know the difference between a Imperial Schrade knife and a Camillus.Look at the top bolster(main blade) the Camillis is a fraction wide and the Schrade is more rounded.Check your knives than you can tell me If I am right or wrong.
gsmith7158 some more detective work

Grant

Shearer wrote:Camillus made a wood handle 72 the called a Camillus 5 this knife did not have a matchstick pull.
The only Ulster 63 I have are Delrin handle and a Kon Kav grind on one side.
I have some Craftsman 9492 ( 72 clones ) made by Imperial.
It looks like that Imperial made knives for Craftsman under the names of Ulster, Schrade and Imperial.

How to know the difference between a Imperial Schrade knife and a Camillus.Look at the top bolster(main blade) the Camillis is a fraction wide and the Schrade is more rounded.Check your knives than you can tell me If I am right or wrong.
gsmith7158 some more detective work

Grant

Grant I'm away from my knives this week. I'll be itching to get at them when I get home!

gsmith7158 wrote:

DM11 wrote:

jerryd6818 wrote:With the knife in hand, can you see any sign of bolster pins?

Yes sir Jerry it has bolster pins.

David all this detective work is what I enjoy about these 72 clones.

Yes, it sure is interesting and fun. I'll try to get better pics up tomorrow.

Compare it to this Hammer Brand (note the shield & the saber ground main) Schrade and Ulster shields are football shaped with ends that are much more pointed. The only Imperials I have for comparison have a Scout shield.
Edit: Yes, I do see the shields are not exactly alike.

WOW.... I am AMAZED at how many different 72's there are out there.

Looks like you could spend all your time chasing them.
(I know every time I look into a pile of knives, that is the shape I look for now)

I got this 1047 yesterday.... somebody had re-attached the shield wrong and with some sort of thick rubbery substance. First thing I did when I got it in my hands was to turn the shield correctly and attach it with some good epoxy.

jerryd6818 wrote:Compare it to this Hammer Brand (note the shield & the saber ground main) Schrade and Ulster shields are football shaped with ends that are much more pointed. The only Imperials I have for comparison have a Scout shield.
Edit: Yes, I do see the shields are not exactly alike.

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Jerryd the shield on the Imperial Hammer brand looks like it would fit in David's OP knife but were there ever any with bone handles?

gsmith7158 wrote: but were there ever any with bone handles?

I don't know the answer to that Greg.

Here are a couple more pics of the knife.

DM11 wrote:Here are a couple more pics of the knife.

Looks the same as mine.

Gsmith
Here a picture of Imperial shields next to Hammer shields.
The later Imperial shields are smaller than the earlier ones.

Grant

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. We have a surprise witness that has just entered the courtroom. Apparently I have a knife just like David's.
Here it is compared to a Schrade made Olsen and the Imperial Hammer Brand. Just about a dead ringer with the Imperial except for bone handles

jerryd6818 wrote:Floyd, for your hunting enjoyment, there are at least three variations of the R-14. Look for them. Collect all three.

Jerry this one is your fault. NOS Remington R 14 with a wood handle. I know, just one more to go. Actually kinda nice to find it. Thanks.

........like the wood on that one!!!!............ .................

Thanks Carrmillus.

doglegg wrote:Thanks Carrmillus.

..........ever eat any smoked beef brisket at RAILHEAD in ft. worth????............... .................

I have not but I will put it on the list. Thanks for the recommendation.

doglegg wrote:I have not but I will put it on the list. Thanks for the recommendation.

...........that stuff will make a bulldog break his chain!!!!!!............ ..................

carrmillus wrote:

doglegg wrote:I have not but I will put it on the list. Thanks for the recommendation.
...........that stuff will make a bulldog break his chain!!!!!!............ ..................

My fault? Jeez!

Well, I found this poor and very sick "WHITE TAIL CUTLERY" 72 pattern knife at the antique store this past weekend. Nothing at all on the blade tangs....There is a little blade etch left. MAN.... how does anyone ruin a set of blades like this?

Anyway, Jerry, I am sure you have a good example of this one... don't you?
Mike

Meridian_Mike wrote: how does anyone ruin a set of blades like this?

I know the answer to that one - with liberal use of one of these: