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Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:49 pm
by JohnR
Thank you Cal and thanks for the information on a Camillus connection.
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:16 pm
by Dinadan
JohnR wrote:Picked up this Heritage Series whittler, this one marked for Hoffritz Cutlery.
Very pristine looking looking whittler, John. I have a couple of the Heritage series myself and I think they are a fine knifes. The color of the handle on yours is nice!
Cal - I do not think that Schrade ever switched to the Swinden key for the 804 line. I have several 804s of widely varying age, including a couple I got from you. They all have pivot pins through the bolster, even the Delrin handle ones, which I think would be in the Swinden key era.
I have read somewhere that Schrade's Heritage series was made by Camillus, but it seems like hard data is hard to come by.
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:20 pm
by tongueriver
Dinadan wrote:I do not think that Schrade ever switched to the Swinden key for the 804 line. I have several 804s of widely varying age, including a couple I got from you. They all have pivot pins through the bolster, even the Delrin handle ones, which I think would be in the Swinden key era.
I have read somewhere that Schrade's Heritage series was made by Camillus, but it seems like hard data is hard to come by.
You sure could be right about that! None of their lockbacks or folding hunters ever had Swinden construction. I think the 123OT and 124UH did not, either.
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:57 am
by koldgold
I have had these two for a wile, any information on them... Ken
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:22 pm
by dweb1897
They were made for the Kentucky - Tennessee Bicentennial in 1992 from New Old Stock from the 40's I believe. Love the sabre blades on that set. Pretty sure they were an SFO for Parker Frost
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:39 pm
by tongueriver
Oddly, Kentucky and Tennessee came into the Union during different years, 1792 and 1796, respectively. My notes say a run of 3000 but I don't know if that is accurate. There are no parts of these knives that were made earlier. The blades may be stainless but I have not tested them. The pattern number on their pile sides is 8104. They were also sold individually. I have a cased set available for anyone who needs one.
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:50 pm
by Dinadan
Notice that the pattern number on the Bicentennials is 8104, while the Heritage pattern numb er is 8041. Am I correct in thinking that the Heritage version is maybe ten years older than the Bicentennial?
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:53 pm
by tongueriver
I have had Heritage whittlers with a 1983 shield.
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:50 pm
by kootenay joe
The "8104" seems like a mistake in the stamping dye ?
kj
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:17 am
by dweb1897
I was wrong about the date of issue on the Kentucky Tennessee Whittlers. They were issued as an SFO for Parker Frost for the 1976 Bicentennial.
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:52 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
tongueriver wrote:Nice whittler. Schrade was looking pretty good in the 1980s. Who could see what was coming?

I notice that there are through pins on that knife, so I reckon it was at least partly made by Camillus. A plus!

Based on my observations I believe the 804 and its later variants never went to swinden. Perhaps a swinden whittler would have been too complicated, whittlers being difficult to make already. Either way I don't believe swinden was used on any of them. One of the few schrades to retain pin through like the lockbacks and such.
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:52 am
by cody6268
Schrade USA 106OT "Granddad's". Seems to have seen little use. It was one I became interested in after seeing it in the research pages. I saw one pop up for an $12 starting bid on eBay, put my max bid in for $22, then 6 days later, found I won the knife for $14 plus shipping.
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:37 am
by tongueriver
It is amazing how handy those teeny tiny scissors can be. Good show!

Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:44 pm
by Jporter1974
I cannot say that cracked ice is my choice for handle material, but I will always be interested in the cut co. knives. This is a smaller knife, but it sure feels sturdy. I haven't been able to put it down for several days now

~Jon
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:57 pm
by tongueriver
Jon, does this look like the right one?
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:38 pm
by kootenay joe
Cody, that little knife is one of my favorites. For such little money i was wondering if it was Schrade China but i can see the rust spots on it so definitely USA. That might be your best score for 2018. I would have bid over $50 for it.
kj
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:40 am
by Mustanger
ULSTER 98
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:20 pm
by Tsar Bomba
Interesting matchstrike pull on that Ulster and some handsome Delrin (not cheap-looking at all like some others I've seen), very nice find!
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:19 pm
by tongueriver
Tsar Bomba wrote:Interesting matchstrike pull on that Ulster and some handsome Delrin (not cheap-looking at all like some others I've seen), very nice find!
You can see that Ulster Delrin (and the blade grind) on a bunch of Sears knives.
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:20 pm
by Mustanger
Tsar Bomba wrote:Interesting matchstrike pull on that Ulster and some handsome Delrin (not cheap-looking at all like some others I've seen), very nice find!
Ulster built a sturdy, nicely finished knife. Even the simple everyday working knives. All the ones I have, have some amount of mirror finish polishing on the blades. At least the mark side of the main blade. Even some of the electricians knives. Here is my other #98 in a Craftsman version. #9470
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:13 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
Jporter1974 wrote:I cannot say that cracked ice is my choice for handle material, but I will always be interested in the cut co. knives. This is a smaller knife, but it sure feels sturdy. I haven't been able to put it down for several days now

~Jon
That's a nice one. When the blades are that good cracked ice looks more appealing

Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:38 pm
by dweb1897
This one is coming all the way from Tasmania Australia courtesy of AAPK member Timstools. I'm using his pic's with his permission. I had thought that the NRA Bicentennial Bowie was the only one that had etching on both sides. Goes to show there is always a surprise around the corner when you collect Schrades. It will fit right in with my other Aurum Etched Bowies. Herman is already on the hunt for a piece of stag for it.

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Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:02 pm
by black mamba
Nice knives! I've got one of those #9470 Ulster Craftsman knives in peachseed jigged Bonite. A lovely stockman!
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:39 am
by Schradenut
dweb1897,
I have seen lots of those Schrade Bowie Aurum etched knives, but in my opinion that one is the nicest. The detail in that etch is amazing, and it continues to the ther side.
A good pick-up my friend and another sensational Bowie to add to your massive collection of Bowies.
Tony.
Re: My latest Schrade
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:27 am
by Jporter1974
Thanks for the info on the little knife. It is 3 and 1/8. I need to get me a schrade cut co era reference book, but all I ever have seen is the schrade walden era and up references. Any suggestions? ~Jon