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Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:49 am
by RobesonsRme.com
That's the standard, full sized Robeson scout/utility, 3 5/8" closed length.
That's a pretty knife. Great handles. Essentially full blades. Nice.
Charlie Noyes

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:46 pm
by WelderBob
Very nice Robeson's...I think their scout-utility knives are some of the best ever made IMO...
Charlie the Sword Brand has bone handle's and they look like peach seed jigging. Well I'll
throw mine in the pot, it's a 649214...I really like the shield on these Robeson's... ::tu::

Bob

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:54 pm
by Sswingle
I have to admit that my Robeson scout is one of my favorites, that is now that I've gotten used to the screwdriver that looks like a snapped off blade. :lol:

I still haven't figured out if the short blade extension above the bottle opener is a can opener or for some other purpose? ::shrug::

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:26 pm
by Just Plain Dave
That is a NOICE one Welder Bob!

I too wonder about that opener blade. Can't wrap my brain around how it is used.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:01 pm
by upnorth
That "mystery" blade is surely a combination Can opener, Bottle opener, IMO.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:49 pm
by WelderBob
Maybe this will help...the bottom part is a cap lifter and the top is a can opener, this is
the way I learned to use one. You punch through the lid and let the stud ride on the rim
of the can and work your way around it. The picture show's the blade on the outside, it would of course be on the inside...I just wasn't going to punch a hole with this blade. There may
be other ways...I do know if your hungry enough you'll figure it out... ::nod::

Bob

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:24 pm
by Miller Bro's
Bob,

Nice knife!

I haven`t seen any of these G. Schrade Boy & Girl scout Wire Jack chow kits posted yet.

Here is one of each in it`s original leather carry case.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:11 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Bob is correct. Perforate the lid with the sharp edge of the blade pointed away from you, rest the stud on the edge of the can for leverage, then work your way around the lid, cutting up from underneath.

There is a modification of that cap-lifter/tin-opener blade on which the end is screw-driver. It still has a cutting edge on the under side for opening tins as described above.

I showed this knife much earlier in this thread, but here it is again to illustrate the different cap-lifter that Robeson used.

Charlie Noyes

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:50 pm
by Just Plain Dave
Another very interesting pattern Charlie!

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:15 pm
by Sswingle
Here's my Cattaraugus Junior Scout knife with two blades and brown bone scales, circa 1920s. Tang stamp on main blade reads CATTARAUGUS CUTLERY LITTLE VALLEY N.Y. On back it reads 22899 UR. Stamp on back of can opener reads PATENT APPLIED FOR.
Cattaraugus Jr Scout front.jpg
Cattaraugus Jr Scout back.jpg
Cattaraugus Jr Scout blade closeup.jpg

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:47 pm
by philco
Very nice Catt.!! ::tu::

For some reason that one looks familiar to me. :P

Phil

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:34 pm
by Sswingle
philco wrote:Very nice Catt.!! ::tu::

For some reason that one looks familiar to me. :P

Phil
Of course it does, I asked both you and Miller Bro's what you kew about it :lol:

Interestingly, I found a pretty good source of knowledge abou the knife through a search on Google. Guess what the source was: http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... ilit=22899

I have the non-compass version....

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:40 pm
by philco
Sswingle wrote:
philco wrote:Very nice Catt.!! ::tu::

For some reason that one looks familiar to me. :P

Phil
Of course it does, I asked both you and Miller Bro's what you kew about it :lol:

Interestingly, I found a pretty good source of knowledge abou the knife through a search on Google. Guess what the source was: http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... ilit=22899

I have the non-compass version....
I'm glad to know you snagged it. I kinda wondered if you did. ::tu:: 8) ::tu::

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:25 pm
by 9ball
Taxes are done, now it is time for a short period of mental health.

Here are a couple of unofficial Scout/Utility knives, I do not remember seeing any here. They are both "unused" so far. That red is starting to shrink a little and the sides of the Lakota are identical & embossed. They both got odd punches I have not seen here yet, so I have killed two birds.

I watched a show about Red Cloud over the week-end and it reminded me of the Lakota. I believe we are having tacos tonight and that reminded me of that ole time can opener on the Schrade.
It is also stamped "Beverage Can-Opener".
Too bad it is out-dated. 8)

9ball :)

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:05 am
by Just Plain Dave
What is the gadget on the end of that Schrade knife above? Has me stumped.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:17 am
by Owd Wullie
Just Plain Dave wrote:What is the gadget on the end of that Schrade knife above? Has me stumped.
:shock: DAVE!!

THAT is what us OLD FARTS used to open our adult canned beverages and kid canned beverages before some enterprising smart aleck invented the pull tab and bane of all who use metal detectors. ::tounge::

THey were also known as "church keys" by some. They made a triangular hole in the top of the can to drink from. You'd punch one hole that size and then turn the can 180° and poke a smaller hole for it to vent. Now if you were a REALLY heavy drinker. You'd punch one hole to drink from, put the can to your mouth, tilt your head back thereby raising the can to vertical and then punch another hole in the other end of the can. Made the beer really easy to get out of the can and down your gullet. ::ds::

We referred to that ignorant move as "shotgunning" a beer. ::doh::

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:50 pm
by 9ball
Owd Wullie Sezs


We referred to that ignorant move as "shotgunning" a beer.
Have you tried one of them Beer Bongs? :shock: Talk about gettin’ Bug Eyed :lol:

I am away from the Home Front today or I would upload a closer view.

9ball :)

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:05 pm
by junebug
bwhahaha....we use ta make the "virgin runners" at truck shows take full beer bong loads :mrgreen: ...............but of warm coors light or some other crap beer :mrgreen: !!!! ..............saved the coooooold budlight for are selves ::ds::
p.s
beer bongs now make me sick just lookin' at them............. ::barf::
and i got a marine uncle who can nail a 12oz. can in like .218 (j/k)seconds!!!ITS AMAZING :lol: :lol: ::tu::

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:28 pm
by philco
let's get back on topic folks.

Phil
(moderator)

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:49 pm
by 9ball
Here is the close-up of the can opener. One of my guides calls it a "Beer" can-opener.
I am not postive, but I do think the sodas were still it bottles when these knives were made.

9ball :lol:
(Collector)

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:34 pm
by orvet
Now I feel OLD.
I knew the slide rule and the typewriter had pretty much gone the way of the dinosaur, but I did not realize that the humble but ubiquitous Church Key had met the same fate.
There was a time when every frat boy had one on his key chain. Not only were they used to open cans of beer but also soda, evaporated milk, canned fruit juices, etc.

They were everywhere you went; a humble, but useful tool, present in every kitchen, toolbox and tackle box.

This one resides in my kitchen on the side of my refrigerator attached by the magnet on the back, (see pic below). This is typical of the construction of most church keys, can opener on one end & bottle opener on the other.

9ball wrote:Here is the close-up of the can opener. One of my guides calls it a "Beer" can-opener.
I am not postive, but I do think the sodas were still it bottles when these knives were made.

9ball :lol:
(Collector)
Nope. Soda pop came in cans just like beer did.
The pull-tab concept for beer & soda cans was not introduced in the US until 1964. It took a while for all beer and soda producers to switch over to the pull tab can.

By 1967 when Jim Ed Brown had a Country Music hit with "Pop A Top Again," we had all pretty much forgotten about the old steel cans for soda & beer. That is until 1972 when I got to a little base in the jungle of SE Asia called Nam Phong. There we had rusty steel cans of Schlitz, and a couple other brands that all required a Church Key!
Nothing like drinking 7 or 8 year old beer……warm, and loving it! :mrgreen: :shock:
BTW, the Beer Dump, about 1/2 acre in size, was the most secure, most heavily guarded area on the base!



It amazes me that such a common, ever present tool as the Church Key has passed unnoticed from our common awareness.
I guess the Church Key blade on a knife is the new Presto Lite blade. Still showing up in older knives causing questions to be asked by each new generation of knife collectors.

I feel so old I think I need a nap.

Dale

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:07 am
by upnorth
I like the magnet Dale! Keeps it handy. I still use the bottle cap opener end, because some of the beer I drink does not have twist-offs.

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:38 am
by ea42
Still need that church key to open a can of tomato juice ::tu:: :D

We use the jumbo size in restaurants 8)

Eric

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:03 am
by orvet
I got an email from 9ball.
He said the pattern of the Schrade Walden with the Church Key was 906.

Humm........not one I have in my collection.
I will have to be on the lookout for one.

Dale

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:40 pm
by smiling-knife
Somone has to bring this thread back on track :wink: This is a Hammer Brand scout pattern, though not an official scout knife as far as I know. Unusually, it has double nail nicks on the master blade. Nice bones scales. :D s-k

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