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Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:13 pm
by ScoutKnives
The production number is odd for sure , I have number 00300
, the inlays are supposed to be silver .
jxr1197 wrote:This is more of a one off oddball than a 'rare' knife. It's a BSA Jubilee knife and I'm going to go out on a limb and use the "P" word here (PROTOTYPE) along with a healthy dose of conjecture - cause that's usually a winning formula.
The knife that was ultimately made in 1985 was a run of 12,000 pieces on a brushed lockback frame with engraved brass inserts and custom blade etch. Here's a picture of one from a popular auction site:
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Here's the one I have:
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When I saw the 00000 serial number and those 'SS' letters engraved into both inserts my first thought was photo sample or salesman sample. But why would a SFO need that? Then there's the blade etch that reads '1 of 500' instead of 12000. Finally why aren't the inserts brass? They're stainless. So my theory is that the silver looking inserts are representative of sterling silver (which is why it got the 'SS' engraved) and the 1 of 500 means there was a plan to also have a limited 'silver edition' to go along with the standard edition of this knife. That plan fell through and this prototype is all that remains. Like I said - a healthy dose of conjecture.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:25 pm
by jxr1197
HA! I knew if threw the P word around it would all go sideways! Thanks for the additional info.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:27 pm
by jxr1197
...now where do I find one of those fleur de lis cases?!
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:06 pm
by tongueriver
Great knives and great thread! Thanks to all! I saw one of the gold ones on ebay (maybe last year?); the seller was MIGHTY proud of it.
I have the much more common multi-blade scout knife package that is associated with that Boy Scout anniversary and it is nice, also. And available.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:57 pm
by Quick Steel
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:04 am
by KnifeSlinger#81
This one is rare enough that I haven't seen another one yet.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 1:08 am
by LRV
Really nice sample.
thanks for showing.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 3:39 am
by ea42
Fantastic knife Paul, definitely don't see many of those in pearl!
Larry! Good to see you posting, hope all's well in the north country!
Eric
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:10 pm
by jxr1197
917 Sportster
Only in the 1953-54 catalogs
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:02 pm
by tongueriver
Some great knives shown here today; many thanx!
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:03 am
by glennbad
Wow Jason, amazing! Never seen that one in the wild before.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:44 pm
by jxr1197
Thanks Cal and Glenn. I passed this one over at first to check the catalogs because I have never seen one before. Luckily at was still available the next day. The catalog says these have red handles so maybe this one's a sample. I'm guessing it belonged to an employee. It's unused and it never even made it out of the neighborhood. The package it came in was postmarked Walden, NY.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:00 pm
by jxr1197
This less-than-perfect example of an SO8814NP just arrived. I don't believe I've seen one of these before - just the older oblique with parallel slanted bolsters. Aside from this and the 1966 Buck I don't think there are any other Schrades with this bolster style. Some Imperials much later on but no other Schrades.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:21 am
by tongueriver
Great oblique!
Here's another one.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:49 am
by jxr1197
tongueriver wrote:Great oblique!
Here's another one.
^^that's the older oblique I was talking about - I'm jealous!
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:57 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
tongueriver wrote:Great oblique!
Here's another one.
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Dern you Cal! That's my grail
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:03 pm
by tongueriver
Featured now on the Seldom Scene is an 831 stag Schrade Walden NY USA 3 5/16.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:50 pm
by tongueriver
If anyone has ever heard of or seen another 831, or signs of it in a catalog, please post.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:18 pm
by kootenay joe
Is the 831 same size as 834 ?
kj
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:26 pm
by tongueriver
kootenay joe wrote:Is the 831 same size as 834 ?
kj
Yes.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:55 pm
by kootenay joe
Here is a Primble Stockman with slanted bolsters, marked "John Primble/Belknap Inc." on front tang and "371I" on the back. The last mark is a capital "i". Is this a Schrade-Walden knife ? or Camillus ?
kj
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:57 pm
by kootenay joe
Here is a rather rare one, or at least not often seen S-W 835Y.
kj
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:23 pm
by tongueriver
The Primble was made by Boker USA. The yellow 835Y knives came in celluloid first, and then Delrin. The yellow cell on those first knives was not very stable. Also, when they went to Swinden pins, The "bird eye" was moved out of the way a bit and was not actually the pin. This was in the 1960s era, of course. Any Schrade yellow celluloid should be quarantined.
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:59 pm
by kootenay joe
Thanks Cal. I did not know that Boker USA made the Primbles. As my 835Y has birdseye rivets it must be pre ~1960 and therefore has celluloid handles ?
kj
Re: What Schrade RARE knife do you have
Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:44 pm
by tongueriver
Your knife looks like celluloid from here (through the smoke; come on rain). Not all Primbles were made by Boker; some were indeed made by Schrade (think 8OT) and possibly other makers (?). Those oblique bolster ones were Bokers.