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Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:22 pm
by deadsledmotors
Imperial collection.approx 1 3/4 inch blade.Handle emblem is a crown. Patent numbers on 1 inch blade.

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:31 pm
by shugy
:) Hey deadsled, you happen to know what yrs that crown was used? Oh and ::welcome::

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:55 pm
by deadsledmotors
Thanks for the welcome. Right now I dont have any info on crown dates.

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:01 pm
by tjmurphy
Don't know about the crown shield but this might help you
Imperial.jpg
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Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:42 pm
by shugy
::tu:: cool tj thanks for that info, I did'nt think that knife was that old. are they still in biz? And let us know when you cut the CD for Delaney ::woot::

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:50 pm
by tjmurphy
Not sure, but I don't think that Imperial is still in business. As far as the CD for Delaney Marie, you'll get the first copy ::tu::

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:22 am
by deadsledmotors
Imperial Schrade Corp. was an American knife manufacturer of hunting knives and pocketknives. Imperial Schrade was the consolidation of five forerunner companies,[1] including its namesakes, the Imperial Knife Company, founded 1916, and the Schrade Cutlery Company, founded in 1904. In 2004, the company stopped making knives and closed its factory. The name was bought by Taylor Brands and used for marketing purposes. from wikipedia

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:44 am
by orvet
In 1942 Albert Baer formed Imperial Knife Associated Companies, (IKCA), by joining his Ulster Knife Co with Imperial. The companies were closely tied together after that. In 1946 Baer purchased Schrade Cutlery Co. and Schrade Walden became a Division of IKAC. Albert Baer continued to purchase Imperial stock and in 1983 he owned all the shares of Imperial and it becomes a privately held corporation.
In 1985 he changed the name to Imperial Schrade Corp. Imperial Schrade continued to produce knives under the Imperial name until the close in 2004. If you check the 2004 Schrade price list you will find Imperial Jackmaster knives listed on it.

Here are some other Imperial tang stamps pics originally published in Knife World and posted a few years ago by LT.

Tang stamps #2A and #4A in the Knife World article do not appear on the 4th list.
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Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:09 pm
by whitebuffalo58
Here's one that never shows up on any list. The whole knife is rather an oddity. Hammer Brand spear master in a Barlow, Imperial pen secondary with all cap block lettering, vert. USA and no crown. And, the handle wraps aren't the typical cracked ice color or pattern. I have three knives with this handle material, and all are HB's.
Dale, I noticed the HB stamps shown in the first chart, shows 3 sleeve rolls on the arm. On all the HB stamps I have, in those eras, there's only 2. Like the ones shown on the second chart.
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WB

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:19 pm
by orvet
Rob,
I see your knife listed in the 1952 Imperial catalog.
It is a Hammer Brand, but of course I can't read the tang stamps in the pic.
They were sold in display cards of one dozen.
The same display ( display #JM-435) is listed in the 1959 catalog for the whopping wholesale price of $4.35 per display of one dozen knives.

I would copy pics of the displays but they are in a format I can't copy from.

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:14 pm
by whitebuffalo58
Thanks Dale, i've always assumed the knife, pattern wise, was correct. There's no sign of any tampering. Good to know for sure, now.
The Imperial tang stamp still baffles me. I know it's not unusual to have mixed parts from Imp. & HB in the same knife, but the stamp on the pen is sort of a combination of '36-'52 and '56-'88 stamps. Block lettering/no crown, but yet a vert. USA. At first I thought maybe they took a '36-'52 pen blade and just added the USA stamp to it. But, #1-Imperial seldom gave a hoot about such things. Why go to the trouble?! And, #2- if you look closely, there is a subtle difference between an actual '36-'52 stamp and the one on this knife. Typically, the "P" in Prov. aligns with the "M" in Imperial and Prov. R.I. is centered below the Imperial. In this case the "P" aligns with the outer edge of the "I" and PROV. R.I. takes up the same space as the word IMPERIAL. Not a huge difference, I agree. But, enough to lead me to believe this is a stamp that for some reason, wasn't used often. And to top it all off, it's been my experience, that very few Imperial pen blades were ever stamped with anything other then U.S.A. or pat'd numbers.
I'm sure I havn't seen everything, but this combination of little quirks is something i've never seen before or since. ::shrug::

WB

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:11 pm
by PigSticker
Here's some pinned handled Imperail's most WWII & earlier The whittler is the latest & two blade jack bottom (Got that off Scott-Thanks again Scottie)

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:52 pm
by Miller Bro's
Here are a couple from the 1930`s.............

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:13 am
by johnnierotten
Nice knives Fellas. ::tu:: ....Dimitri...love the Bartenders knife. 8)


Heres my latest... :)

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:19 am
by Cutty
'30-'36 Imperial Providence,R.I.

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:46 am
by Miller Bro's
Thanks Johnnie ::tu::

Nice one`s you guys are showing.....

Imperial sure did use some interesting and colorful handle material :o

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:13 am
by 313 Mike
Nice ones guys!
Johnnie, that jack almost looks like it's on a trapper frame...except with a clip and pen instead of the clip and spey. What is the closed length on that one?
Mike

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:46 am
by johnnierotten
She's about 3.5 closed. ::nod::

Case made a dog leg jack...it was a 6207 (trapper) with a pen blade instead of spey...it was discontinued in 1978. :|

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:11 am
by Joe Dirt
M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E Sing it guys! ::groove::

This little EO with the integerated tip bolsters
is the first one of these I have ever seen!!!
It measures 2- 3/4".

I had to reprofile the tip of the blade and put a new
pivot pin in it.
Works well now and has a hard snap and a half stop. ::nod::

It dates from '30 to '36 with the unabreviated "Providence R.I."
under Imperial stamp on it.

..... Joe

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:13 am
by Miller Bro's
Nice find Joe! ::tu::

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:58 am
by whitebuffalo58
Here's a few early toothpicks.
Early Imperial-IKCO #902 Toothpick.JPG
Ca.1930's Imperial Toothpicks.JPG
WB

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:04 am
by knifeaholic
Wow!! That two blade in bone is nice and a super rare one!!

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:16 am
by whitebuffalo58
Thanks Steve!
It's definetly a topdog amongst my toothpicks, I don't think it was ever carried or used.

WB

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:00 am
by Joe Dirt
That's gotta be the oldest stamp I have seen, Rob!! Very NICE collection of toothpicks!

I have a few I haven't posted yet. The handle colors on these are amazing to me.

Robert Paolantonio says the hatchet blades were used by the Italians to chop and gather mushrooms in the wild!

... Joe

Re: IKCO The Imperial Knife Company

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:55 pm
by whitebuffalo58
Thanks Joe! Awesome knives ya got there!! Never had one of the hatchet knives. ::tu::
Not sure if i've posted these before, but here's a couple of cousins to ones you just posted. Love the spider celluloid!!
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SANY0002-001.JPG
WB