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Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:52 pm
by Miller Bro's
orvet wrote:I think those handles may be Rogers bone, perhaps an earlier pattern or one that is worn way down.
IMO that is not Rogers bone. The jigging pattern is typical of what you see coming out of N.Y. state knife companies pre WWI.
Very similar to the pattern you see on Walden, Pressbutton & N.Y. Knife Co. knives of that period. I have a couple early Camillus knives that have different jigging patterns, then it seems they settled into using just the Rogers pattern we are more familiar with

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:53 pm
by orvet
Thanks Dimitri.
I really appreciate your input!
You have more Rogers Bone than I do, so I figured you would know.
Thanks.

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:52 pm
by Miller Bro's
Your welcome Dale
Here is an example of what I am talking about, this is, I believe, a pre WWI era knife with the same type jigging that Trav posted.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:23 am
by travman
Great knife MB
Would that have been for military use or the common seamans use?
With Camillus still in its young age were they not tooled up to
produce their own jigged scales at the time , maybe having to get
their supply from others? It seems the jigging varies in the early knives?
Trav
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:01 pm
by Miller Bro's
travman wrote:With Camillus still in its young age were they not tooled up to
produce their own jigged scales at the time , maybe having to get
their supply from others?
That is what I was thinking.
travman wrote: It seems the jigging varies in the early knives?
I have noticed two variations so for in the early jigging.
travman wrote:Would that have been for military use or the common seamans use?
I can`t prove it but it is almost identical to the wood handle version you see more often, this knife is missing it`s bail

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:12 pm
by msteele6
Some really great knives on this page (oops, last page).
The last two have what I have seen called "pick bone" handles. It appears to have been one of the earliest handle materials Camillus used, probably in the 1910's or thereabouts.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:11 am
by travman
Heres a Camillus harness jack
3-5/8" ebony handled
3 line stamp on main and punch with a 1908 patent date
MAIN
CAMILLUS
CUTLERY Co.
NEW-YORK
PUNCH
CAMILLUS
CUTLERY CO.
CAMILLUS.N.Y.
BACK OF PUNCH
PATENTED
AUGUST 11th 1908
NO.895778
Trav
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:26 am
by orvet
WOW Trav,
Where do you keep finding these beauties???
Don't let Charlie (upnorth) see that, he will want it! He loves HJ's!
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:09 am
by Miller Bro's
Nice one

Here are a few more oldies

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:36 am
by travman
Dale i found that HJ in a carpenters tool chest i got at a flea market a couple years back
MB that blade on that easy opener is AWESOME

It appears to be etched ? easy opener?
Is it the typical 3-5/8"?
Here is another 3 line Camillus
5-1/4" Forest King
match striker pull
CAMILLUS
CUTLERY Co.
NEW-YORK
Trav
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:19 am
by orvet
These belong in this thread too.
These tang stamps with serif letters are 1916 accordine to Goins.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:11 pm
by Miller Bro's
travman wrote:MB that blade on that easy opener is AWESOME

It appears to be etched ? easy opener?
Is it the typical 3-5/8"?
Yes on all counts

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:07 pm
by travman
Nice one Dale
That knife has had a good life ,used alot but well treated
Trav
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:16 pm
by Miller Bro's
Couple utility knives.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:45 pm
by orvet
Nice ones Dimitri.
Does anyone have an extra shield like the ones on the two knives Dimitri just posted?
I need a USN or MD USN shield for a knife I am building for my niece who is a nurse in the Navy.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:05 am
by Miller Bro's
Dale,
The first one I posted above has the shield "U.S.A.".
The ones marked MD USN are very hard to find, I don`t have any parts knives I can take one off. I may have a USA shield if you want one of those

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:55 am
by orvet
Thanks Dimitri, I didn't enlarge the picture when I looked at it and I thought it was an "N".
I may have an extra USA shield. I appreciate the offer I will let you know if I need it.

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:47 pm
by MikeB
Here is an EO I picked up some time ago, it has 4 line stamp on the main blade which is hard to see and even harder to photo, it has no shield, but the bone is great. I wonder if it is an army issue.
I'd appreciate any info
Mike
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:41 am
by orvet
Mike, I would say most likely that knife was a military contract knife, or a knife made right after World War II from blades and parts left over from the military contracts.
I do know there were some contracts were canceled when the war ended. Camillus had already begun production on some military contracts and had tens of thousands of parts left over. Since they already had the parts made they finished out a lot of knives with parts they had already made for the military contracts. As a result Camillus sold a lot of military knives on the civilian market after the war. I know this was certainly the case for the MIL-K knives, but I am not certain that your easy open jack was one of them. It is most likely, imo, that your knife was made for the military.
Nice knife by the way, I love that pattern!

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:36 pm
by MikeB
Thanks Dale, an interesting explanation.
Mike
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:33 am
by Mossdancer
Here is an oddball for the oldies. It is named a Rase or Timber Scribe. I believe it was for marking the grade of the fallen tree. Or the timber company that cut it. Anyone with a wag at the year?
moss
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:52 am
by orvet
Definately pre 1946, but most likely pre WWII.
Nice find Moss!
I think I have one somewhere. I will find it & post some pics.
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:11 am
by travman
Here is a pre war Camillus
3-3/4" English Jack
4 line stamp on main and pen blade
Trav
Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:27 am
by orvet
VERY NICE Trey!
That is not a common pattern.
Love that bone!
Is all the handle there on the other side?
Where are you finding all these unusual patterns in such nice condition?

Re: Camillus WWII and before!
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:02 am
by travman
Thanks Dale
The bone on the back is just as nice
yes a very uncommon pattern ,such a sweet knife both blades walk an talk
I as they say "Pound the pavement" to find these knives
my focus is on the Camillus Brands searching wherever i go
it is getting hard to find these different patterned Camillus knives
Trav