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Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:27 pm
by JohnR
Dimitri, very nice Russell. I picked one up thats a little bit rougher.
Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:29 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Wouldn't you love to know who "NL" might have been?
Charlie Noyes
Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:03 pm
by JohnR
I was thinking the same thing Charlie.
Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:00 am
by PCwizard
Just adding my NOS ABL from 1950, my wife found it for me a few years ago.
Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:27 pm
by Miller Bro's
Thanks John.
That one has a lot of character
Gary, those ABL knives are really rugged

Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:12 am
by Miller Bro's
Had to go back two years to find this thread
Added this one to my collection, happy it still has the etch

Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:22 am
by FRJ
And that is a nice oldie!
Good one, Dimitri.

Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:27 am
by Miller Bro's
Thanks Joe!

Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:41 am
by tjmurphy
Those old knives are magnificent. Nice one Dimitri

Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:43 am
by FRJ
Here's a Miller Bros.
4 3/4" excluding brass lanyard ring.
Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:43 am
by Miller Bro's
tjmurphy wrote:Those old knives are magnificent. Nice one Dimitri

They sure are Tom, thanks!
Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:44 am
by Miller Bro's
Joe, that Miller is great!

Re: Rope Knives
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:30 pm
by ratlesnake75
RobesonsRme.com wrote:MB;
Your knife has double rat-tailed bolsters! One big rat and one little rat drug their tails across those bolsters.
Here's a big Robeson 197 with bone handles, steel liners, butt cap and single rat-tailed bolsters.
Also Robeson's version of the WWI Navy issue knife.
Charlie Noyes
Hey Charlie, If you dont mind to help me learn more about this particular example of the 2-blade sailors knife WW1 Model. Most all other examples I am aware of come from WW1 also. Just curious as too the Master blade stamping being "Robeson shuredge Rochester" was from 1922-1939 right. The dates are confusing for me. Could this particular stamping go back to 1917-1918 instead of 1922?
Thx Mark
Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:53 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Any dating that anyone has ever published re' tang stamps on Robeson knives is dubious, at best. That includes the dates published by Tom Kalcevic. I use them, as it's pretty much all we have, but I have never stated them to be totally accurate.
As far as I know, no one has had access to genuine Robeson records from their inception to WWII.
Given that these knives are generally accepted to be WWI issue,then that stamp has to date to 1918 or so, unless, of course, Robeson continued to offer the pattern after the war.
Who knows? I certainly do not. But, wish I did.
Charlie Noyes
Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:15 pm
by ratlesnake75
Hey Charlie, Wonderful information and I certainly appreciate your opinion & value your input. Thanks for taking the time to elaborate on this.
Kind Regards,
Mark
Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:22 am
by KAW
Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:35 am
by djknife13
I would call that a sailors knife and I use the terms rope knife and sailors knife pretty much for the same knives although I would guess rope knives would generally be heavier blades for pounding through heavy hemp rope. It looks to me to be more suited to use as a sailors knife. Lets see if others agree with me. ___Dave
Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:27 pm
by tjmurphy
I'm inclined to go with the "farmer's folder" or pruning knife, reprofiled hawk-bill based on the rounded shape of the blade forward of the nail nick.
Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:50 pm
by djknife13
Farmers jacks or folders usually have a hawkbill style pruning blade and a spay style grafting blade. Platts called their hawkbill knives pruning knives and Levine's guide shows your knife and lists them as Sailors rope knives or just sailors knife. The Camillus example he shows is almost a copy of your Ulster so that's my story and I'm sticking to it. ___Dave
Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:07 pm
by ratlesnake75
Hey KAW, Thats a normal Hawkbill knife or pruning knife that the blade has been Re-Profiled to resemble a Rope knife.
Kind Regards,
Mark
Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:28 am
by djknife13
I'm still putting my money on it being a sailors knife. The nail nick isn't in the same place as old Ulster Hawkbills and the blade is too long both between the nick and the bolster and way too long for the end of the blade to be ground flat. Also I don't think they stamped a model number on their hawkbill. The frame isn't the same as a Ulster hawkbill either . It's the wrong shape and one too many pins. I'll believe it's a reworked Ulster hawkbill when I see one listed in an old catalog from a different era than I'm familiar with that has a 1010 pattern number stamped on it. _____Dave
Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:03 am
by zzyzzogeton
A top-down pic showing the knife with the blade closed might shed a little light on whether or not the blade has been shortened.
Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:59 pm
by KAW
Thanks all for chiming in about this knife.... I got about as much consensus here as anywhere else

.... talk about stirring up the pot!
(
OK.... I added that last part in just so I get the chance to use that emoji.)
As requested here's the angle asked for....
....plus a view in the closed position....

Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:58 pm
by zzyzzogeton
Just my 2ยข worth, but I don't believe that that blade has been cut down at all.
Re: Old Rope Knives
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:13 pm
by thefarside
An old Allen, I guess the spike makes it a Riggers Knife, but I think it fits in this forum>