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Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:56 pm
by Meridian_Mike
[quote="Capt. Farrel"]Although I am not a particular fan of SAK“s (they feel so cheap to me with those plastic handles

) I always had them around. To be honest, they are hard to beat in an urban envirement where there is
simply no real use for a hunting knife or such......quote]
Here is my favorite SAK.... I use it when skinning deer. The long skinning blade laying back at an angle has a rounded and blunt end so when you slice under the skin it will cut skin but not into the meat.
Works great!
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:48 am
by Capt. Farrel
Good one Mike! Those crafty Swiss seem to have a tool for every need.

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:03 pm
by 313 Mike
Black Alox Pioneer! Newly arrived...will drop 'er in the pocket and carry for the next couple days at least, she how she rolls!
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:54 pm
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
I like the black as well Mike. Nice knife!

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:46 pm
by Meridian_Mike
Mine is just like your black only RED.....
Lower right in the photo:

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:25 am
by jerryd6818
313 Mike wrote:Black Alox Pioneer! Newly arrived...will drop 'er in the pocket and carry for the next couple days at least, she how she rolls!
Well? How does she roll?
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:32 am
by 313 Mike
jerryd6818 wrote:313 Mike wrote:Black Alox Pioneer! Newly arrived...will drop 'er in the pocket and carry for the next couple days at least, she how she rolls!
Well? How does she roll?
Well...she rolls quite nicely as a matter of fact! Extremely useful knife/tool.
I actually used it to execute a complete repair on the toilet paper hanger the other day without ever getting up off the pot!

We have a hard plastic toilet paper roller attached to the wall right next to the toilet, and one of the two screws that secure it to the wall had come loose...so I pulled out the trusty Pioneer from my rfp, used the small screwdriver tip to remove the screw...flipped out the punch and worked a new hole through the plastic right next to the old hole, switched back to the screwdriver tip and worked that screw through the new hole and securely into the wall behind it. Finished my business, and away I went.

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:39 am
by AREMINGTONSEDGE
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:59 am
by junebug
THATS DANGEROUS!!!!
PUT THAT LID DOWN!!!!!
YA MIGHT JUST DIP YER SAK IN THE WATER........

...

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:30 am
by jerryd6818
junebug wrote:THATS DANGEROUS!!!!
PUT THAT LID DOWN!!!!!
YA MIGHT JUST DIP YER SAK IN THE WATER........

...

Josh, you are a genuine, comes with a warranty, screwball.
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:16 pm
by 313 Mike
junebug wrote:THATS DANGEROUS!!!!
PUT THAT LID DOWN!!!!!
YA MIGHT JUST DIP YER SAK IN THE WATER........

...


...I appreciate your concern for my SAK, Junebug.

Rest assured though, proper precautions were taken to make sure it stayed out of the water...

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:28 pm
by Cutty
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:53 pm
by fergusontd

...I appreciate your concern for my SAK, Junebug.

Rest assured though, proper precautions were taken to make sure it stayed out of the water...

[/quote]

Those SAK's are stainless, should.t hurt it it falls in the water. Asfor the other it is washable with soap and water. ftd
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:04 am
by tank
I have picked up 3 recently. First pic is of two Swiss Bianco models. The Davy's Gray Farmer and Micro Farmer, which is a 83mm Cadet with a saw blade. The other is an Orange Farmer that Victorinox made a limited run for a South African dealer. It will be for sale as I have 2 others.
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:20 am
by 313 Mike

Great pick ups Tank! I've never even heard of a "micro-farmer" before, pretty sweet!
...and that orange Farmer is a real beauty too. I still need to add a Farmer to my accumulation, but am not a huge fan of the silver alox...that orange would be my first choice of colors actually!

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:26 pm
by Meridian_Mike
I have a stupid question:
I have 4 SAK's that are all labeled as "OFFICIER". They all 4 have a different (with some similarities) blades or tools. One of my OFFICIERs even has almost twice as many blades/tools as the other 3. Some OFFICIERs have the magnifying glass and some don't.
Now the question, What
characteristics make an OFFICIER or a HUNTSMAN or a CHAMPION or any other SAK assume a given name?

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:37 pm
by jerryd6818
This is a very handy SAK web site and this link will give you a little history regarding the "Officer's Knife".
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http://www.sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?p ... cers+Knife
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:58 pm
by Meridian_Mike
WOW.... thanks for the link to the SAK site Jerry.
I can see right now that I have days of reading and study to try to figure out the SAK's.
(LOL)
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:03 pm
by jerryd6818
" to try to figure out the SAK's."
Good luck with that one.

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:29 pm
by tank
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:59 pm
by Meridian_Mike
Thanks for that link Tank.
WOW..... the possibilities are endless.
The models are overwhelming...... BUT there is no OFFICIER in the model listing.
What am I missing?

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:35 pm
by Capt. Farrel
In 1897 Victorinox put a so called Officers knife to the market. Soon enough pocket knives coming from Switzerland were known as "Officers knives". Several different knives were officially issued to the members of the swiss army. The last change was in 2008 to this variant:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schweizer_ ... r_08-2.JPG
To make a long story short: Every Wenger or Victorinox is an Officers knife!

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:18 pm
by Meridian_Mike
I see your point Captain.
Well, I guess where I am missing the over-all picture is this:
Why are some marked "OFFICIER" and then others are not? Is this a year model issue?
SO.... in actuality... there is no model specifically called "OFFICIER".
In my collection, the knives on the right are marked "OFFICIER" but the ones on the left are not.
It seems the number of blades and the type of blades or tools is going to designate the model of the SAK.
I think the light is starting to come on.

Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:02 am
by tank
There are two types of Swiss Army Knives, the Soldier's Knife and the Officer's Knife. The Soldier's knife is standard issue for Switzerland and Germany's military. The Officer's version boasts a wide variety of features, including the iconic corkscrew. According the Victorinox publication "Swiss Army Knives: A Collector's Companion," the generic term "Swiss Army Knife" was created just after World War II by American servicemen, who found its official German name "Offiziersmesser" too hard to say.
http://www.trails.com/about_3764_swiss-army-knives.html
Following WWII the PX retailers started marketing the "Swiss Officer's Knife" in big amounts to be able to National soldiers. The actual troopers Started calling it the Swiss Army Knife intended for small and also the label features stuck.
In this photo the Officer knives are on top and the real Soldier issued are on bottom.
Re: VICTORINOX knives 1884- present SWISS ARMY KNIVES
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 11:50 am
by Meridian_Mike
Very good info Tank!
Thanks for adding the comments and great pic!!
