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Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:34 pm
by tjmurphy
JEARL wrote:I am interested in starting a collection of the Hawbaker Specials. Wondering if anyone could share some pics. and some info. Doesn't matter what brand. Thanks Jeff
I guess that my main point was that there are "Hawbaker Specials" and there are Hawbaker Patterns which are not Hawbaker Specials. Make sense??
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:54 pm
by JEARL
I am guessing that if it is marked hawbaker special it is, if not it is a improved muskrat? Even if it has the hawbaker blade?
Jeff
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:30 pm
by tjmurphy
The "improved" tag that I hung on it may not be a totally accurate description, maybe "Hawbaker patttern" is better. But as far as I know, all Hawbaker Specials, with the exception of the very first one, are marked as such and were authorized by the Hawbaker family. I may be speaking completely out of my bounderies of expertise, but as I recall, that's what all the literature says. This is some pretty interesting reading. Scroll down to page 319 and there is a topic about the "Hawbaker Specials" which may make it more clear.
http://books.google.com/books?id=LL_7wQ ... &q&f=false
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:40 pm
by Dave O
tj, how come you have no calluses on those hands?? Lets see some on the tips of your fingers! Is that Martin too light to make a callus?
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:51 pm
by biglmbass
tjmurphy wrote:The Canal Street Hawbaker Special is single spring.
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Thanks. While you've got it close, how thick is it?
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:15 pm
by tjmurphy
biglmbass wrote:tjmurphy wrote:The Canal Street Hawbaker Special is single spring.
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Thanks. While you've got it close, how thick is it?
5/32 across the back
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:24 pm
by tjmurphy
quote="Dave O"]tj, how come you have no calluses on those hands?? Lets see some on the tips of your fingers! Is that Martin too light to make a callus?[/quote]
Got nothing serious on the finger-tips. The HD-28 is a HOSS but it plays easy. I won't keep a guitar that hurts my fingers/hands or breaks strings. I play a pretty heavy rythem but haven't broken a string in 10-years. The last strings I broke were during the same song, nearly at the same time. Broke the G and the B. It was a brand new set of Elixer strings. Needless to say it was the first and last set of those strings I ever used. I currently use Martin SP-4200's, medium phosphorus bronze.
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Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:03 pm
by Billswfl
This is a Case 1982 Improved Muskrat it was supposed to be a Hawbaker Special but some were rejected because of the quality of the bone. The front scales look good but the rear has a lot of white showing.
Bill
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:20 pm
by tjmurphy
Yeppers, that's what the cited article says. That's a good one to have, should be pretty rare.

Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:24 pm
by Billswfl
TJ there are probably fewer of these then the Hawbakers.
Bill
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:30 pm
by tjmurphy
Absotively!! Posilutely!!
Case had other problems with their handles in the 80's. A friend of mine has two or three with handles dyed red that bled into whatever they were touching. The paper they're wrapped in has more color than the handles.
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:05 pm
by JEARL
Picked up my first Hawbaker

traded with Tim Greene. I was down at the flea market today and my knife guy said he is picking up a case xx 1940-64 hawbaker, and is going to call me when he gets it. I was looking in my Sargent's book and it says there is 2 varieties a fine jigged and a coarse jigged. I was wondering if anyone has any pics. of one or have a case knife with coarse jigging.
Thanks Jeff
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:51 pm
by 1967redrider
Cool bear trap!
I have this coon-stripe Bulldog with a Hawbaker blade, I think there's another one kicking around in my collection somewhere . . .
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:06 am
by bamafan
Here's an 80's era Case hawbaker.
Re: Hawbaker Special
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:49 am
by 1967redrider
I knew I had another one somewhere.
This is a delrin Winchester made in the USA, part of The Scout set, 1 of 1,000. Unfortunately the little pocket watch has the "C" word on it. But I like it none the less!
I'm slowly warming up to delrin.