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Re: camillus #72

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:50 pm
by jerryd6818
carrmillus wrote:
gsmith7158 wrote:
carrmillus wrote:,,,,,,greg, the primary blade on that one looks like 1st. gen. to me???............. ::tu:: ............................
Probably pretty close Tommy but the coping blade is next to the master. So I'm guessing a little later?
.......yep, that should be reversed if it's a first gen., but the master blade has a pronounced curve on top of the blade from the match striker to the tip that is the same as the 3 1st. gen. knives I have. on the later ones it's more of a straight line from the pull to the tip!!............. ::shrug:: ........................
Ahh but the pile side of the master is flat ground. I'd say very early 50's but what do I know. I don't have a feel for when they stopped saber grinding both sides of the main. They continued to use bone until 1955 when they changed to "Brownstag" which was a synthetic. In addition, I think they continued to use the short line stamp into the early 50s but that's just speculation.

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:31 pm
by carrmillus
jerryd6818 wrote:
carrmillus wrote:
gsmith7158 wrote:
Probably pretty close Tommy but the coping blade is next to the master. So I'm guessing a little later?
.......yep, that should be reversed if it's a first gen., but the master blade has a pronounced curve on top of the blade from the match striker to the tip that is the same as the 3 1st. gen. knives I have. on the later ones it's more of a straight line from the pull to the tip!!............. ::shrug:: ........................
Ahh but the pile side of the master is flat ground. I'd say very early 50's but what do I know. I don't have a feel for when they stopped saber grinding both sides of the main. They continued to use bone until 1955 when they changed to "Brownstag" which was a synthetic. In addition, I think they continued to use the short line stamp into the early 50s but that's just speculation.
....somebody should write a book and title it "CAMILLUS MYSTERIES"!!!............. ::doh:: ..........

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:09 pm
by gsmith7158
Still it is a pretty nice knife with bone handles . I'm happy.

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:47 am
by #goldpan
That's a right nice 72 you have there Greg ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:12 pm
by carrmillus
gsmith7158 wrote:Still it is a pretty nice knife with bone handles . I'm happy.
......and well you should be, my friend!!, don't get me wrong, I wasn't criticizing your knife, it just seems every one I've picked up here lately has something out of the norm !!!.......... ::tu:: ...........

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:51 pm
by gsmith7158
carrmillus wrote:
gsmith7158 wrote:Still it is a pretty nice knife with bone handles . I'm happy.
......and well you should be, my friend!!, don't get me wrong, I wasn't criticizing your knife, it just seems every one I've picked up here lately has something out of the norm !!!.......... ::tu:: ...........
I hear ya Tommy. I thought bby the time they changed the blade and the configuration that boNE handles were gone. Shows what I know !

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:13 pm
by jerryd6818
Oh ya did, didja. Yeah, me too until I saw this little beauty. Bone handles and a long line tang stamp. Hmmm ::hmm::
Where's that book Tommy suggested?

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:20 pm
by jerryd6818
There's ten years missing in the Camillus line.
Short line stamp 1946-1950
Long line Stamp 1960-1976
Three line stamp with no underline ????-???? (for a while in the '50s??? Maybe??? Or maybe it post dated the four line stamp for a short time???)

How about this? Short line stamp was used until sometime in the 1950s
Started using the long line sometime in the 1950s.
The no line stamp? Well who the heck knows?

Camillus makes my head hurt. ::dang::

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:34 pm
by gsmith7158
A ten year mystery period. No telling what we might find in that era! ::shrug::

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:03 pm
by Colonel26
That's a fine looking knjfe there Cuz! Real nice.

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:08 pm
by jerryd6818
Thanks Cuz. I was surprised to find it. It's one of the one of's in my pile. So far, I haven't seen another.

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:40 pm
by carrmillus
.........ok, here goes.....72 pattern...master blade is saber ground both sides....sword brand mark on mark side...4 line mark on pile side...no marks on the secondary blades.......smooth caramel bone handles.......large oval shield with 4 points....all 3 liners are gimped......clip blade is paired with master..from the looks of the pins, knife has never been apart........????????........ ::facepalm:: .............

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:03 pm
by jerryd6818
Tommy, this is one of those times when you're going to have to have a picture. Get one of your kids or grandkids to take some pictures and post 'em up. I'm sure they all have cameras in their phones and know how to use them.

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:10 pm
by gsmith7158
jerryd6818 wrote:Tommy, this is one of those times when you're going to have to have a picture. Get one of your kids or grandkids to take some pictures and post 'em up. I'm sure they all have cameras in their phones and know how to use them.
Yeah, I want to see that one too!

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:36 pm
by carrmillus
...........also got a Camillus splitback whittler, same shield and handles, outside liners are gimped(not the wedge)....4 line stamp on master blade, secondary blades are not marked......guess it's time to get out my ARGUS and see if it will work!!!......... ::facepalm:: ......................

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 6:22 pm
by gsmith7158
jerryd6818 wrote:
carrmillus wrote:
gsmith7158 wrote:
Probably pretty close Tommy but the coping blade is next to the master. So I'm guessing a little later?
.......yep, that should be reversed if it's a first gen., but the master blade has a pronounced curve on top of the blade from the match striker to the tip that is the same as the 3 1st. gen. knives I have. on the later ones it's more of a straight line from the pull to the tip!!............. ::shrug:: ........................
Ahh but the pile side of the master is flat ground. I'd say very early 50's but what do I know. I don't have a feel for when they stopped saber grinding both sides of the main. They continued to use bone until 1955 when they changed to "Brownstag" which was a synthetic. In addition, I think they continued to use the short line stamp into the early 50s but that's just speculation.
Jerryd there ia a short line 67 with bone handles that I am watching that also has the flat grind on the pile side. That would be a significant date to determine!

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:17 pm
by gsmith7158
Ok 72 fans ,here's one I got in today courtesy of a heads up from none other than Mr. 72 himself, JerryD. Thank you Jerry.
An Olsen OK clone.

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:35 pm
by jerryd6818
It looks good Greg. Those appear to be Schrade handles. ::uc::

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:56 pm
by gsmith7158
Well JerryD now that you mention it I don't see a sign of bolster pins. Could it be? ::hmm::

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:05 am
by gsmith7158
Just snatched this little jewel off the bay. I am ecstatic!

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:07 pm
by jerryd6818
Excellent. Love those bone handles. I have yet to see one of those that wasn't dead factory condition. Good find. They don't come up with any regularity.

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:39 pm
by gsmith7158
Thanks Jerryd! That one slipped past my search function some how. Found it with a day and a half left.

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:48 pm
by jerryd6818
What is it they say? "Better late than never." :wink:

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:11 pm
by #goldpan
Nice one Greg ::tu:: Love those handles! :D

Re: camillus #72

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:54 pm
by gsmith7158
Thanks Randy! That one has been on my to do list for a while. :D