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Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:33 am
by Sharpnshinyknives
The Northfield is certainly more visually appealing with the swedge on the blade and the higher polish. In hand I like the feel of the wooden handled ones best. The Northfield has the best grip since you have that jigging. I love the Oily Creek Bone look but it is a bit slick and if you sweat while using it then it could be problem.
The bone handles are definitely heavier than the wooden handled ones. I will try to weigh them tomorrow on our postal scale.

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:48 am
by 1967redrider
Sharpnshinyknives wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:03 am
1967redrider wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:51 pm Great looking lineup, Sharpnshinyknives!
Thanks, I had some extra time and lined these up several ways to find the best look. I will have to recreate this after the tortoise shell acrylic arrive and if I can get a stag when they are released. Thought I had one at CK but got an email this week saying that my “confirmed” was changed to “stand by” looks like they will be releasing fewer of these in stag than expected. Stag is going to be really tough to get.
Here are two more photo’s, changed the focal point on each one. Couldn’t decide which one I liked best.
I think I like the "blades open" picture the best, if you're looking for input. ::tu::

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:52 am
by kootenay joe
Mark, thank you for the details about your #86 knives. I am surprised that the wood handles feel so good.
kj

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:54 pm
by Sharpnshinyknives
kootenay joe wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:52 am Mark, thank you for the details about your #86 knives. I am surprised that the wood handles feel so good.
kj
So here is the breakdown on weight. The two wooden handled knives each come in at exactly 3.8oz. The Oily Creek Bone is heavier at 4.2oz and the Northfield Autumn Gold Jigged Bone is heaviest at 4.3oz. So the bone handles are 10% and 13% heavier respectively. It’s funny that you can actually sense the difference in weight enough that it makes one feel better in hand than another. And I still prefer the wooden handles over the others and maybe it’s just the weight difference? I have carried a Kershaw Double Cross in both Stamina and Ebony wood for over 15 years so that may have something to do with it as well.

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:54 pm
by kootenay joe
Mark, thanks for weighing these. I am a bit surprised that the bone weighs that much more. But i am not surprised that you can feel the difference.
Pocket knives look to be deceptively simple but really they are marvels of design and fit. A 3 1/4" knife feels much bigger than a 3" knife even though it is only 1/4" longer. And the weight distribution is also important in balance. Only takes less than 0.5 ounce in handle weight to change the balance and the feel in hand.
Good thing here is, some people like a heavier in hand feel, others prefer a light in hand feel and this #86 seems to provide both based on which handles it has.
I think the Northfield with jigged bone looks the best so far. I will have to wait to find out if the heavier in hand feel also suits me best.
kj

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:53 pm
by kootenay joe
The #86 with "Tortoise shell Acrylic" handles is now available at GEC dealers. These handles make me think of the old shell handled Imperial knives even though the handle construction is not the same. I do not find these appealing, at least in the pictures. "In person" i might get a different reaction.
Does anyone here like the #86 with these handles ?
kj

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:50 pm
by Sharpnshinyknives
I’m going to reserve my judgement until I see the one I ordered in hand. I usually don’t go for acrylic handles, I guess I was in a different mood the day I reserved one. So far I am not impressed with the photos of these. But many times the photo’s don’t capture that quality that will make you glad you bought it.

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:11 pm
by Onearmbladejunkie
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Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:27 am
by kootenay joe
The BladeForums knife is basically an expensive box cutter. Thick blade with a straight edge. There is a reason you don't see a saber ground sheepsfoot blade on a vintage knife. The blade is designed to trim thin slices of hoof with a draw cut (cutting towards yourself, like peeling an apple). A full flat grind which is the usual for this blade will slice through with less 'drag' than a thicker saber ground blade can.
But i bet for guys whose job it is to cut up cardboard boxes for recycling, this new BF knife is just fine.
kj

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:21 pm
by Sharpnshinyknives
Tortoise acrylic 86. I like it, but not as well as the others. Anxious to see the stag. This one surprised me on the weight it’s 4 oz dead even. I would have thought that acrylic would have been lighter than the wooden handled ones. One thing I noticed right off is that the surface is very slick. They oil the blades so heavily at the factory that it gets all over the handles. When you put this back in the wax paper it picks it up again. You have to wipe this down each time you take it out. Which tells me that if you were using this knife regularly you would have a problem with this slick surface just from sweat and any oils you might come into contact with. This is the first bigger acrylic knife from GEC I have purchased. I think I was wise to stay away from acrylic on these bigger knives. The 61 I have in perylic isn’t as slick but it has a very small amount of surface area. Curious what others think of this 86 in acrylic.

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:37 am
by Doc B
Sharpnshinyknives wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:21 pm Tortoise acrylic 86. I like it, but not as well as the others. Anxious to see the stag. This one surprised me on the weight it’s 4 oz dead even. I would have thought that acrylic would have been lighter than the wooden handled ones. One thing I noticed right off is that the surface is very slick. They oil the blades so heavily at the factory that it gets all over the handles. When you put this back in the wax paper it picks it up again. You have to wipe this down each time you take it out. Which tells me that if you were using this knife regularly you would have a problem with this slick surface just from sweat and any oils you might come into contact with. This is the first bigger acrylic knife from GEC I have purchased. I think I was wise to stay away from acrylic on these bigger knives. The 61 I have in perylic isn’t as slick but it has a very small amount of surface area. Curious what others think of this 86 in acrylic.
Mark, I too, just got this. I had reserved it, when it was an only choice...however, I was able to pick one up in bone, too. I hadn't thought about it being slick, if your hands get sweaty...but I'm sure that would be an issue. Now, I know you like them shiny; but, my first overall impression of this knife, was that it was too shiny...blades, bolsters and acrylic. My personal opinion, was that it would look better, with patina, and worn bolsters and acrylic. I thought about making it a user...but the main blade is a little on the large side, for my EDC preference. I generally use the primary blade, the most, on most knives...but if I carried this one, would probably end up using the secondary sheeps foot the most. For now, it's back in the tube. I like the bone much better.

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:12 am
by Sharpnshinyknives
Doc B wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:37 am
Sharpnshinyknives wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:21 pm Tortoise acrylic 86. I like it, but not as well as the others. Anxious to see the stag. This one surprised me on the weight it’s 4 oz dead even. I would have thought that acrylic would have been lighter than the wooden handled ones. One thing I noticed right off is that the surface is very slick. They oil the blades so heavily at the factory that it gets all over the handles. When you put this back in the wax paper it picks it up again. You have to wipe this down each time you take it out. Which tells me that if you were using this knife regularly you would have a problem with this slick surface just from sweat and any oils you might come into contact with. This is the first bigger acrylic knife from GEC I have purchased. I think I was wise to stay away from acrylic on these bigger knives. The 61 I have in perylic isn’t as slick but it has a very small amount of surface area. Curious what others think of this 86 in acrylic.
Mark, I too, just got this. I had reserved it, when it was an only choice...however, I was able to pick one up in bone, too. I hadn't thought about it being slick, if your hands get sweaty...but I'm sure that would be an issue. Now, I know you like them shiny; but, my first overall impression of this knife, was that it was too shiny...blades, bolsters and acrylic. My personal opinion, was that it would look better, with patina, and worn bolsters and acrylic. I thought about making it a user...but the main blade is a little on the large side, for my EDC preference. I generally use the primary blade, the most, on most knives...but if I carried this one, would probably end up using the secondary sheeps foot the most. For now, it's back in the tube. I like the bone much better.
Doc, I agree. The bone is better, but for me the wooden handles are the best of the batch, until the stag comes out at least.

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:50 pm
by Onearmbladejunkie
The #86 Oil Field Jack Sambar Stag knives are just about to be released !
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Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:58 pm
by Onearmbladejunkie
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Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:16 am
by Breeze
I have a sucker rod wood and have an autumn bone in the mail. I've been surprised at how well this big chunk 'o knife carries in jeans.
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Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:30 am
by kootenay joe
When will the Waynorth #86 be released ?
Are they sent to certain dealers ? Or, only available directly from Mr. Campagna ?
kj

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:30 am
by Onearmbladejunkie
kootenay joe wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:30 am When will the Waynorth #86 be released ?
Are they sent to certain dealers ? Or, only available directly from Mr. Campagna ?
kj
I checked with all of the dealers yesterday. Your best chance is KnivesShipFree. Nine to 15 knives and about 300 collectors trying to buy one.

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:31 pm
by kootenay joe
Thanks onearm. With those low numbers my slow internet connection prevents any chance of scoring one.
kj

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:15 pm
by Onearmbladejunkie
kootenay joe wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:31 pm Thanks onearm. With those low numbers my slow internet connection prevents any chance of scoring one.
kj
I am in the same boat. Don't sweat it man. Some great GEC knives are coming up in 2020. I am saving up for the unknown trappers. If I can't get what I want , I'll just order another snakewood custom.
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Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:49 am
by Onearmbladejunkie
12/20/2019 at 7:04PM tonight , I was surfing Gunstock Jacks. I clicked on Waynorth Knives and looked what popped up. I have been in chronic phantom pain all day waiting on a Charlie Waynorth #86 Black Jack knife. I snagged that sucker too. I am very happy and blessed ! Not my photos !
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Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:52 am
by doglegg
Well oabj your lucky day. Congrats. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:02 pm
by kootenay joe
Great good luck !
I got the Gunstock Jack email and went right to his site but saw "Sorry, Out of Stock", or similar. Bet they were gone within 1 minute.
kj

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:54 am
by kootenay joe
Has anyone bought a stag 86 ? Is anyone planning to ? Or have there already been enough 86's that everyone has their fill ?
kj

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:15 pm
by Sharpnshinyknives
I just ordered my stag one from CK minutes ago. I noticed yesterday that Kifer Cutlery had 3 of these for sale on EBay.

Re: Great Eastern #86

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:42 pm
by gsmith7158
KSF has the Stag 86. Get em while they're hot! :D