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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:23 am
by knifegirl888
I know that this knife isn't an obscure maker by any means. Its a Boker, but it has the same sort of abalone inlay as the Fairplay brothers. I have a couple of these that I will have to dig out. These kinds of knives are pretty.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:10 pm
by paulsvintage
this is a great thread ! i enjoy checking these old ones out. i think i have one a WADE & BUTCHER think 1947 was last year

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:09 pm
by Jacknifeben
I just remembered this old bird. It is an over sized fleam with alot of provenance. It is stamped in the blade, "JOSEPH GRAY & SON SHEFFIELD Ist PRIZE MEDAL LONDON 1862 SILVER MEDAL PARIS 1878. We were still discovering the western part of the U.S.A. and Europe was having knife expositions.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:29 pm
by paulsvintage
JACKNIFEBEN wrote:I just remembered this old bird. It is an over sized fleam with alot of provenance. It is stamped in the blade, "JOSEPH GRAY & SON SHEFFIELD Ist PRIZE MEDAL LONDON 1862 SILVER MEDAL PARIS 1878. We were still discovering the western part of the U.S.A. and Europe was having knife expositions.
very nice find jkb ::tu::

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:23 am
by edgy46
Posted before but it belongs here.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:33 pm
by paulsvintage
good one 46 ::tu:: i cleaned up two more for pictures this morning. one corning knife co. nyc 1900-1920 and a seneca cut which i think was part of utica

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:15 pm
by knifegirl888
Thought I would bump this back up by adding another one. A. Reinig is marked on the blade. I have no info on this one.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:21 pm
by robinetn
J PRITZLAFF HDW. CO. , MILWAUKEE , WI.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:22 am
by knifegirl888
That's a cool one! You got me looking... I thought I had one from Milwaukee, but it turned out to be a knife from Duluth.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:26 am
by robinetn
knifegirl888 wrote:That's a cool one! You got me looking... I thought I had one from Milwaukee, but it turned out to be a knife from Duluth.
WOW ! Those are some neat bolsters onthat one !

Bob

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:31 am
by paulsvintage
::tu::
knifegirl888 wrote:That's a cool one! You got me looking... I thought I had one from Milwaukee, but it turned out to be a knife from Duluth.
can't say i ever seen bolsters like that, good one ::tu::

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:36 am
by knifegirl888
robinetn wrote:
knifegirl888 wrote:That's a cool one! You got me looking... I thought I had one from Milwaukee, but it turned out to be a knife from Duluth.
WOW ! Those are some neat bolsters on that one !

Bob
I 'm a sucker for this kind of thing. :lol: I couldn't pass it up even though the blades were worn. It does seem like a well made knife.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:55 am
by Miller Bro's
Remington made that knife on contract.

Remington is the only company that used those bolsters :wink:

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:01 am
by orvet
I looked at those bolsters and said. "Wow, must have been tough hafting those bolsters."
After enlarging the pic, I see it was! :lol:

Neat knife!
Very cool.
Thanks for sharing it. ::tu::

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:06 am
by knifegirl888
Miller Bro`s wrote:Remington made that knife on contract.

Remington is the only company that used those bolsters :wink:
That's awesome info, Dimitri!

Thanks for the nice comments, everyone!

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:13 am
by Miller Bro's
I had a Remington 6285 whittler that used the same bolsters.
orvet wrote:I looked at those bolsters and said. "Wow, must have been tough hafting those bolsters."
After enlarging the pic, I see it was!
It wasn`t tough at all Dale. They stamped them out by the thousands ::nod::

The tough part was fitting the handle material around them.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:45 pm
by tjmurphy
Here's another fleam, G. Gregory, horn handles, chipped but still solid. Don't know the age, but pretty old - Civil War?
G. Gregory Fleam.jpg
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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:46 pm
by orvet
tjmurphy wrote:Here's another fleam, G. Gregory, horn handles, chipped but still solid. Don't know the age, but pretty old - Civil War?

Tom,
That is a nice VERY OLD fleam!
Goins' lists the name with no further reference, date or anything.
Bernard Levine, (LG4) has a bit more, (see page 55)
Levine has G. Gregory listed as "made fleams" in Sheffield England.
He has him listed as a manufacturer, as opposed to a wholesaler or retailer.
I found the date most interesting, he dates it as circa "1820?"
Apparently Bernard Levine thinks it is much older than the Civil War era!
He also rates it as highly collectible.

I think you made a nice score on that one buddy! ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: :mrgreen:

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:52 pm
by tjmurphy
WOW!! 1820?? Now that is old. That old fleam was gifted to me by the same person who gave me the pocket watch. Thanks for the info Dale. I never really knew very much about it. The old thing is still razor sharp.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:57 pm
by Miller Bro's
TJ,

your handles are not chipped. They have been eaten by the larve of a Dermistid beetle. I would suggest you keep the fleam in a zip-loc bag with a moth ball in it, otherwise the handle will eventually get eaten again.

I have had this happen to me on several knives. I now keep them seperate and in sealed bags. :wink:

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:02 pm
by tjmurphy
Now that's interesting. Dadgum moths. Actually the handles are in the same condition as when I received it, but I will take your advise. The old "ounce of prevention". Thanks Dimitri.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:57 am
by knifegirl888
tjmurphy wrote:Here's another fleam, G. Gregory, horn handles, chipped but still solid. Don't know the age, but pretty old - Civil War?
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TJ,

When Bret & I got home today, we read your post. Bret had gotten a couple of knives in the mail this week & one of them was an old fleam. The "blades" were pretty corroded & he asked me to get the loupe and see who made ours. It's a pretty neat coincidence, but it turns out to be a G. Gregory. :)

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:07 am
by tjmurphy
Hey KG - That's pretty cool. Mine doesn't say "cast steel". I see yours has the one blade that is a little different than the other two, having an extra little point on the tip of the blade, the one closest to the handle. Mine has a blade like that too. Reckon each blade was for a different purpose? Reckon why more than one blade? Your handles are much nicer than mine. Like Dimitri said, keep it in a zip-lock bag with a moth ball in it - got to preserve these old timers.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:13 am
by knifegirl888
tjmurphy wrote:Hey KG - That's pretty cool. Mine doesn't say "cast steel". I see yours has the one blade that is a little different than the other two, having an extra little point on the tip of the blade, the one closest to the handle. Mine has a blade like that too. Reckon each blade was for a different purpose? Reckon why more than one blade? Your handles are much nicer than mine. Like Dimitri said, keep it in a zip-lock bag with a moth ball in it - got to preserve these old timers.
The blades on ours are in much worse shape than yours, but the one blade does appear to be different. Lots of good questions... maybe someone else might know more? Perhaps one of our guys might be a veterinarian?

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:09 pm
by edgy46
Remembered this old one today. Haynes Stellite (1910-1922 per Goins' Encyclopedia)