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Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:16 am
by TPK
Can't help ya any on the stamps but that's a cool find Mike!

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:39 pm
by BWT
Can’t help you Mike but I do like the knife, good find!!
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:43 pm
by BWT
Picked up this A J Jordan recently. Thanks for looking and any thoughts on it or comments

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:50 pm
by Waukonda
That is a great looking knife!

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:46 pm
by Ripster
BWT wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:43 pm
Picked up this A J Jordan recently. Thanks for looking and any thoughts on it or comments
Thoughts , wish you had a extra one for sale and Comments - Beautiful Piece.
What Do they call that pattern ?
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:13 pm
by galvanic1882
Great looking knife!
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:37 pm
by BWT
Thanks Ike and Mike! I believe it’s called a serpentine Ripster? Don’t hold me to that though. Thanks for looking and your comments.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:34 pm
by treefarmer
BWT,
That is a great looking knife! The shape reminds me of the Case Seahorse whittler(6355).
I have an old Price Guide (1976 addition) by Mrs. Dewey P. (Lavona) Ferguson. She lists 2 A J Jordan knives back then, one is German made and the other is Sheffield, England. Does your knife indicate what country it was made in? Back then the German model commanded a higher price.
Again, a great looking knife!
Treefarmer
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:29 pm
by BWT
Thanks Philip. I have seen the seahorse forgot about that one. This one is a St Louis, wish it was a Sheffield!! Thanks for your help.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:00 am
by 1fartsmella
This is a Wharncliffe pattern pen knife.
Looks like Ulster bone to me?
Nice find.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:03 am
by BWT
Thanks Barry for the information

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:36 pm
by btrwtr
Here is a knife brand I have never seen before. Carrick & Craig Glasgow, with no country of origin stamped. What little I could find on the internet says this company made woodworking tools c. 1893-1922. Pehaps a contract knife made for them. Water buffalo horn handles and both blades well marked. I'd guess that the turn of the century is a good ballpark. Very stout knife at 3 15/16" closed.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:15 am
by peanut740
New one on me too Wayne.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:30 pm
by Ridgegrass
Nice one! Scotland ? J.O'.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:44 pm
by TPK
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:47 pm
by TPK
btrwtr wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:36 pm
Here is a knife brand I have never seen before. Carrick & Craig Glasgow, with no country of origin stamped. What little I could find on the internet says this company made woodworking tools c. 1893-1922. Pehaps a contract knife made for them. Water buffalo horn handles and both blades well marked. I'd guess that the turn of the century is a good ballpark. Very stout knife at 3 15/16" closed.
Cool find Wayne! Very interesting brand name too!

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:50 pm
by btrwtr
Thanks for the compliments gents.
J.O. Yes, Glasgow Scotland.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:00 pm
by JamieinWV
Just got this one over weekend out of a gun safe that had been locked for at least 10 years… but this Hatch curlery what I see was produced 1892-1898 a few years before I was on the scene….
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 3:09 am
by TPK
JamieinWV wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:00 pm
Just got this one over weekend out of a gun safe that had been locked for at least 10 years… but this Hatch curlery what I see was produced 1892-1898 a few years before I was on the scene….
Wow! Now that's a cool find!

Love them bones & shield! Congrats Jamiein!

Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:45 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
This arrived very recently in a large group of pocket knives that I purchased. I did NOT buy the group to obtain this particular pocket knife. However, I was quite surprised and pleased that it was in the group. It is a SENECA, two blades, single tang stamp, 3 1/16" closed, pocket knife. The tang stamp reads "SENECA - CUTLERY CO. - UTICA, N.Y. - 33." The secondary blade rides a little high in the saddle. This does NOT concern me. Except for that issue, it is in GOOD condition. It did require some minor cleaning. I cleaned it, I took some pictures and here it is.
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Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:45 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
This pocket knife arrived very recently in a large group of pocket knives that I bought. I did NOT buy the group to get this particular pocket knife. It is a WABASH, two blades, two tang stamps, 3 1/4" closed, pocket knife. The main blade tang stamp reads "WABASH CUTLERY - CO. - TERRE-HAUTE, IND." The secondary blade tang stamp reads "W. C. CO. - T. H. IND." Overall, it is in pretty GOOD condition. It did require some very minor cleaning. I took some pictures and here it is.
Caption(s), if any, are on the BOTTOM of the corresponding picture(s).
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Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:51 pm
by KJG
Hi there! I'm new here and I hope I'm posting inte right thread.
Any information and thoughts about these two knives are much appreciated.
The first one has "PACIFIC HDWL STEEL CO" stamped in the bigger blade and model number (i guess) 2445 in the smaller. Is Pacific Hardware Steel Co in San Francisco the maker? I read something about that in another thread here.
I have a hard time reading the stamp on the knife with mother of pearl handle. Maybe someone here recognizes the stamp?
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:59 pm
by edge213
KJG wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:51 pm
Hi there! I'm new here and I hope I'm posting inte right thread.
Any information and thoughts about these two knives are much appreciated.
The first one has "PACIFIC HDWL STEEL CO" stamped in the bigger blade and model number (i guess) 2445 in the smaller. Is Pacific Hardware Steel Co in San Francisco the maker? I read something about that in another thread here.
I have a hard time reading the stamp on the knife with mother of pearl handle. Maybe someone here recognizes the stamp?
I can't make it out, but Simmons was in St. Louis and so was Shapleigh.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:00 pm
by KJG
Thank you! At least you made out St. Louis.
Re: Old and Obscure Brands
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:48 pm
by Mumbleypeg
KJG wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:51 pm
Hi there! I'm new here and I hope I'm posting inte right thread.
Any information and thoughts about these two knives are much appreciated.
The first one has "PACIFIC HDWL STEEL CO" stamped in the bigger blade and model number (i guess) 2445 in the smaller. Is Pacific Hardware Steel Co in San Francisco the maker? I read something about that in another thread here.
Welcome to AAPK. As a general rule hardware companies did not manufacture cutlery, they contracted with cutlery manufacturers to have knives made and stamp them with the hardware company name. There are some notable exceptions but I don’t know that Pacific Hardware & Steel was one of them. Someone here may know more about who made it. Napanoch would be a possibility.
Ken