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Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:54 pm
by Ridgegrass
Lyle, That last pic really shows the art of bone jigging. No rookie apprentice did that. ::tu:: J.O'.

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:39 pm
by toomanyknives
wlf wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:38 am Here are some more typical of that 40's or 50's ? style English bone jigging. I took these pictures from auctions As soon as seen , I immediately know it's English of that period.

English bone on Spratt's dog groomer

English bone on Wade and Butcher

English bone on IXL English jack

I'd like to see more of your examples of this English style jigging.
My Lyle! This is like going to a knife museum! And a good one at that! Thanks for posting these!

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:44 pm
by toomanyknives
Here's a recent acquisition with the English bone jigging..
IMG_2873.JPG
IMG_2872.JPG

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:14 pm
by tvic
Real nice, tmk! I like the handle a lot!

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:47 pm
by toomanyknives
tvic wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:14 pm Real nice, tmk! I like the handle a lot!
Thanks Tim. They did a nice job on this one.. ::handshake::

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:13 pm
by wlf
toomanyknives wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:44 pm Here's a recent acquisition with the English bone jigging..IMG_2873.JPGIMG_2872.JPG
Perfect example of this style.

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:01 pm
by toomanyknives
wlf wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:13 pm
toomanyknives wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:44 pm Here's a recent acquisition with the English bone jigging..IMG_2873.JPGIMG_2872.JPG
Perfect example of this style.
::handshake::

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:06 pm
by Thomasg
I love bone ! The English examples are fantastic ! Keep them rolling !!

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:40 am
by Miller Bro's
English jigged bone......

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:52 am
by woodwalker
toomanyknives wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:44 pm Here's a recent acquisition with the English bone jigging..IMG_2873.JPGIMG_2872.JPG
That one is real nice Kerry!! :)

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:13 am
by wlf
Dimitri,do you know the time frame for the Howarth, Johnson , and Spratts?

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 3:54 am
by toomanyknives
woodwalker wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:52 am
toomanyknives wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:44 pm Here's a recent acquisition with the English bone jigging..IMG_2873.JPGIMG_2872.JPG
That one is real nice Kerry!! :)
Thanks WW! ::handshake::

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:18 am
by Ivoryman
toomanyknives wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:44 pm Here's a recent acquisition with the English bone jigging..IMG_2873.JPGIMG_2872.JPG
Beautiful bones there TMK, color and jigging is fine. ::tu::

Miller Bro's wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:40 am English jigged bone......

Pretty knives Miller's Bro, love that old color and jigging. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:23 am
by toomanyknives
Ivoryman wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:18 am
toomanyknives wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:44 pm Here's a recent acquisition with the English bone jigging..IMG_2873.JPGIMG_2872.JPG
Beautiful bones there TMK, color and jigging is fine. ::tu::

Miller Bro's wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:40 am English jigged bone......

Pretty knives Miller's Bro, love that old color and jigging. ::tu:: ::tu::
They did a fine job on this one, Iman! Thanks!

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:27 am
by Ivoryman
wlf wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:14 pm Wostenholm jigged bone seems fairly rare. Here are a couple examples I've found . The darker one had bite to the bone on the handles when I purchased it 11 or 12 years ago.
Great show, you have some sweeties, thanks for posting them. That Wostenholm is fabulous, the IXL too. ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:25 pm
by DM11
Sheffield England, Unity, Needham

William Rodgers, Needham, IXL

Joseph Rodgers, Wards, H M Slater, Albert Oates

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:11 pm
by toomanyknives
DM11 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:25 pm Sheffield England, Unity, Needham

William Rodgers, Needham, IXL

Joseph Rodgers, Wards, H M Slater, Albert Oates
Wow, just wow! Amazing group, David!

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:07 pm
by DM11
toomanyknives wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:11 pm
DM11 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:25 pm Sheffield England, Unity, Needham

William Rodgers, Needham, IXL

Joseph Rodgers, Wards, H M Slater, Albert Oates
Wow, just wow! Amazing group, David!
Thank you tmk! ::handshake::

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:51 pm
by doglegg
toomanyknives wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:11 pm
DM11 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:25 pm Sheffield England, Unity, Needham

William Rodgers, Needham, IXL

Joseph Rodgers, Wards, H M Slater, Albert Oates
Wow, just wow! Amazing group, David!
Agree

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:55 pm
by Ivoryman
DM11 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:25 pm Sheffield England, Unity, Needham

William Rodgers, Needham, IXL

Joseph Rodgers, Wards, H M Slater, Albert Oates

What a show, wow are those cool. The Unity, IXL, Needhams, Al Oates really get me. Congrats on amassing some killers. ::not_worthy:: ::not_worthy:: :mrgreen:

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:07 am
by DM11
Ivoryman wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:55 pm
DM11 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:25 pm Sheffield England, Unity, Needham

William Rodgers, Needham, IXL

Joseph Rodgers, Wards, H M Slater, Albert Oates

What a show, wow are those cool. The Unity, IXL, Needhams, Al Oates really get me. Congrats on amassing some killers. ::not_worthy:: ::not_worthy:: :mrgreen:
Thank you Ivoryman! ::handshake::

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:07 am
by DM11
doglegg wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:51 pm
toomanyknives wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:11 pm
DM11 wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:25 pm Sheffield England, Unity, Needham

William Rodgers, Needham, IXL

Joseph Rodgers, Wards, H M Slater, Albert Oates
Wow, just wow! Amazing group, David!
Agree
Thanks buddy! ::handshake::

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:21 pm
by wlf
Ridgegrass wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:54 pm Lyle, That last pic really shows the art of bone jigging. No rookie apprentice did that. ::tu:: J.O'.
My opinions based on research ,but open for better scrutiny.

The early jigged bone , most of it , we call pick bone. There was another early style more linear made by The Salisbury Cutlery Handle Company ( I just call it Salisbury bone).
The Walden Cutlery Handle Company was a Co-op of NYK, Walden , and Schrade. This was prior to the invention of the jigging machine . However it was done , it was done by a man.
They were a producer or the producer of the style pick bone below, which has indicatively dark lines; sometimes zig zagging and X-ing across the handles on one that's worn. This old Ulster shows a worn example of pick bone and the fallibility or mischievousness of men on the pile side tang stamp .

1. NYK unused pick bone
2. NYK shows the deep underscores which result in the dark lines mentioned above on worn examples
3. Schrade pick bone on the left
4. DE pick bone
5 & 6. Ulster worn pick bone

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:37 pm
by wlf
My opinions based on research ,but open for better scrutiny.

Here are some other examples I didn't realize were pick bone until I started these posts . Many , if not most of the pattern I collect (farmers jacks) were produced prior to the invention of a jigging machine.

1 and two are Ulster made Maher and Grosh.
3 and 4 are Ulsters
5 is comparison scans with both

Re: BONES BONES BONES

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:15 pm
by toomanyknives
wlf wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:21 pm
Ridgegrass wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:54 pm Lyle, That last pic really shows the art of bone jigging. No rookie apprentice did that. ::tu:: J.O'.
The early jigged bone , most of it , we call pick bone. There was another early style called Salisbury bone.
The Walden Cutlery Handle Company was a Co-op of NYK, Walden , and Schrade. This was prior to the invention of the jigging machine . However it was done , it was done by a man.
They were a producer or the producer of the style pick bone below, which has indicatively dark lines; sometimes zig zagging and X-ing across the handles on one that's worn. This old Ulster shows a worn example of pick bone and the fallibility or mischievousness of men on the pile side tang stamp .

1. NYK unused pick bone
2. NYK shows the deep underscores which result in the dark lines mentioned above on worn examples
3. Schrade pick bone on the left
4. DE pick bone
5 & 6. Ulster worn pick bone
Thanks so much for the education, Lyle! Those are some fantastic examples of beautiful knives! ::handshake::