All About Pocket Knives

Nothing like some RR envy to start the week off. Very nice kj

kootenay joe wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:35 pm One of the many things i like about Rough Rider is the wide range of patterns, all well designed.
Here is an Electrician's knife with a liner lock for the screw driver blade and an etch showing inches on the master Spear point blade.
And, there is an adjustable wrench attached to the handle butt and it works well.
Great knife !
kj

So cool! Never saw anything like that.

I've been lusting after these 2 knives for awhile now, and they arrived this morning! R/R 2181/Blue denim Micarta covers and wharncliffe blade!R/R 2176 Bow Trapper/Black Micarta covers and upswept blade!

SCHWEEETTT!!
John

jmh58 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:18 pm SCHWEEETTT!!
John

Thanks again John!

Madmarco wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:08 pm Blue denim Micarta covers and wharncliffe blade!

Oh Yeah...now you're speaking my language

I'm a huge fan of Wharncliffe Swaybacks and the Blue Denim RR is a great knife. Nice pick up, Madmarco.

QTCut5 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:33 am

Madmarco wrote: ↑Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:08 pm Blue denim Micarta covers and wharncliffe blade!

Oh Yeah...now you're speaking my language

I'm a huge fan of Wharncliffe Swaybacks and the Blue Denim RR is a great knife. Nice pick up, Madmarco.

Thanks a lot Q! I had a feeling you would like that one, considering all the high-end models with Wharncliffe blades that you post. I fully realize we have all seen that knife before this, and that it's an inexpensive knife, but it just seems to be a model that no one ever gets tired of seeing. Thx again!

Rough Ryder makes a couple of bow trappers in black. I really like them. I've got one on order. The carbon steel one with the leather lanyard.

bigshot wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:04 pm Rough Ryder makes a couple of bow trappers in black. I really like them. I've got one on order. The carbon steel one with the leather lanyard.

I believe the one you are describing is the RR1572? ($16.99) at Smoky.

Features: 440 High Carbon Steel Blades. Titanium Coating. Nail Nicks. Slip Joint. Black G-10 Handles. Brass Liners with red incerts. Brushed Nickel Silver Pins, Shield, and Ringed, Pinched Bolsters. Braided Cord Lanyard with Nickel Silver Bead Accent.
Master blade is a bit off center when closed, but no rubbing.
Very happy with this Bow Trapper.

Dan

That's it. There is a new version in the Classic Carbon II series. It appears to be about the same, except micarta handles,T10, no titanium coating, no lanyard. What is "440 high carbon"? Isn't 440 stainless?

Old Folder, Your RR has striking good looks. Congrats!

I too am a bit partial to those Bow Trappers.
Even though they call this one a Sowbelly Trapper, I think it would pass as a Bow Trapper.

I love the look of the RR2176, the T10 Bow Trapper. The blade design is really neat! I have been eyeing one of those!

Now see what you've done went and done? This forum is bad for my pocketbook. This Classic Carbon is on it's way and a red T-10 is on my watch list for next month.

Picked up these two the other day.
The single blade sowbelly rides good in the pocket.
The Teardrop Jack was a pattern I could never find but finally found one.

It still amazes me what an excellent knife you can get for so little money. You can build a large collection showing nearly every traditional pattern without spending all of your savings.
kj

I recently bought the RR Old Southwest Bow Trapper and a black one when SMKW first introduced the pattern. My early one was advertised as being mis-stamped with the wrong blade steel, 440 instead of carbon steel or vise versa, I forget which. SMKW has sold them with both steels and multiple side covers. While they are a wee bit gaudy, I like the Old Southwest side covers.

Regarding knife vocabulary, I hate seeing non-stainless steel called carbon steel. If I want to write non-stainless steel I often do. Out of context the word carbon in carbon steel adds no information. On the other hand, we all know what carbon steel means among knife collectors and I wrote it in my first paragraph. I'm sure none of us doubt that old folder knows "440 high carbon steel" is a contradiction among knife guys that presume carbon steel means non-stainless. I suspect that he copied and pasted that without editing it. If he did, the ad was not wrong. The 440A RR usually uses is higher carbon than many steel alloys, both stainless and not.

Just to confuse things, I just bought a bow trapper in black with the lanyard in carbon steel with titanium coating, so there are three different kinds of this knife. I wonder if they are all under the same model number? The one I ordered was RR1572.

Each one has it's own unique model/pattern number.

I see the T10 has a completely different kind of blade. I'll have to order that too. I thought the T10 was just a reissue of the other black one.

The RR2176 with T10 blade is a different pattern. Worded differently, it has a different size and shape handle. Other than not being stainless I wonder what alloy they've renamed T10.

I want to like the Tobacco Road Bow Trapper. Its bone looks good if I ignore the decoration being a tobacco leaf. However, I won't buy anything that promotes tobacco.

After my experience with the two Rough Ryder Reserve knives I got (Kayak, Hedgehog), both of which are excellent knives in every respect, I was elated to discover a RRR in one of my favorite patterns: Wharncliffe Swayback...and it has an EO cut-out as well, which I like . It was less expensive than the other RRR folders by nearly $20 (I paid $38.00 for mine, but have since seen them for even less), which was nice, but, sadly, not up to the same quality standard as my other RRRs (or even a regular RR, for that matter).

It looks great, but has absolutely no snap going into the fully open position; the blade actually has to be manually pushed the final 1/16" or so in order for it to seat against the back spring, and it makes a strange clicking noise when closing (when I first heard it, it sounded like the back spring had snapped in two ). Great looking knife, but very disappointing performance/construction. I wonder if anyone else has had any similar (or other) issues with the RRR009 or if perhaps I was just unlucky and got a lemon?

I was tempted by that one but they want too much for them (personal opinion).

jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:53 am I was tempted by that one but they want too much for them (personal opinion).

I agree - nice knives, but the expensive steel doesn't really do anything for me. I've honestly never been using a knife and said to myself "This 440 steel is just not good enough, I really wish this knife had D2 or VG10 steel."

No or sluggish snap into full open usually is from the bolsters being squeezed together too tight during assembly but a tiny amount of polishing abrasive dust in the joint will cause that in a tight knife. Keeping it oiled open then close it over and over. Fifty times will usually cure it. More than a hundred or a hundred fifty is not likely to loosen it noticeably more. It's not only a problem with inexpensive knives. I had to do that to a GEC that I bought off evil bay. In the end it's better than having the blade wobble looser bolsters cause.