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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:53 am
by BWT
Yomagn'tho wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:56 am A.A. FISHER

I will have to look for a better example, but I slicked this one up pretty fast. Goins 2nd Edition doesn't list it so I am not sure about it's date or anything for that matter. I think the scales are bakelite (looks & feels) so it would be post 1909. Sorry I was having a difficult time getting focus on the makers mark and couldn't find my magnifying glass.

A couple questions though:

1. How does the collecting community feel about reshaping an already damaged blade? Obviously leaving a knife as untouched is ideal, closest to factory as possible, but if the damage already exists? With this one I will leave the smaller blade alone as the main one will be all I need.
2. Apart from Goin's are there any books that will help shed light on the different knife makers?
That’s a nice ole obscure brand for sure, thanks for showing. I usually don’t try to change the blade shape unless maybe it’s a really small nick. I would probably make it worse. If it is a old knife I got for my collection I’m never going to use it and it already served it purpose unfortunately for the person that abused it.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:21 pm
by danno50
Yomagn'tho wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:56 am A.A. FISHER

I will have to look for a better example, but I slicked this one up pretty fast. Goins 2nd Edition doesn't list it so I am not sure about it's date or anything for that matter. I think the scales are bakelite (looks & feels) so it would be post 1909. Sorry I was having a difficult time getting focus on the makers mark and couldn't find my magnifying glass.

A couple questions though:

1. How does the collecting community feel about reshaping an already damaged blade? Obviously leaving a knife as untouched is ideal, closest to factory as possible, but if the damage already exists? With this one I will leave the smaller blade alone as the main one will be all I need.
2. Apart from Goin's are there any books that will help shed light on the different knife makers?
::welcome:: to AAPK.
For Sheffield knives, "Tweedale's Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740 - 2013" is excellent. For German knives, Carter's "German Knife and Sword Makers 1850 to 1945" is the best. There are about 5 Fishers listed in Tweedale's, but no A.A. There is one listing for "Fischer" in Carter's, but, no mention of A.A. It was a mark used by Paul Kohl.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:16 pm
by Yomagn'tho
danno50 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:21 pm
Yomagn'tho wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:56 am A.A. FISHER

I will have to look for a better example, but I slicked this one up pretty fast. Goins 2nd Edition doesn't list it so I am not sure about it's date or anything for that matter. I think the scales are bakelite (looks & feels) so it would be post 1909. Sorry I was having a difficult time getting focus on the makers mark and couldn't find my magnifying glass.

A couple questions though:

1. How does the collecting community feel about reshaping an already damaged blade? Obviously leaving a knife as untouched is ideal, closest to factory as possible, but if the damage already exists? With this one I will leave the smaller blade alone as the main one will be all I need.
2. Apart from Goin's are there any books that will help shed light on the different knife makers?
::welcome:: to AAPK.
For Sheffield knives, "Tweedale's Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740 - 2013" is excellent. For German knives, Carter's "German Knife and Sword Makers 1850 to 1945" is the best. There are about 5 Fishers listed in Tweedale's, but no A.A. There is one listing for "Fischer" in Carter's, but, no mention of A.A. It was a mark used by Paul Kohl.
Thanks for the welcome and the info Dan

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:43 pm
by luckydog64
This is one that I would never have had a clue about if it was not for AAPK, John Chatillon & Sons. It has some wear but so do I. Thanks

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:25 pm
by BWT
Wear or not it’s a really good find, my kinda ole knife ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:26 pm
by Miller Bro's
What Bill said ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:33 pm
by doglegg
Absolutely wonderful old knife. Congrats. ::nod:: ::nod::

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:14 am
by danno50
Great old knife, luckydog, interesting shield. ::tu::

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:31 pm
by peanut740
Chatillion owned Phoenix Knife Co.That's who made yours. ::tu::

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:32 pm
by luckydog64
Thanks a lot guys. I didnt know that peanut. That is good to know and I will look out for that name too. Blades Guides says Phoenix was Central City Knife. Never seen one of those either.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:21 am
by Steelie99
Not sure how obscure it is, but I have a Marttiini brand knife from around the 1960s, as best as I can tell. I picked her up at a yard sale for a buck. Thsi knife is a handy fishing knife. She needs a little work on the handle.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:51 pm
by Jacknifeben
My lucky day. 5 bucks at the flea market. All four blades stamped HOLLEY MFG Co. LAKE VILLE. Top and lower liners worked. Who cares about a little crack.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:23 pm
by Ridgegrass
Those Martini's are great fillet knives. They're sold as RAPALA's and are still around. . ::tu::

That HOLLEY is a peach! Don't find many of those. Super quality ::tu::
J.O'.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:53 pm
by BWT
That’s a good looking Holley, and for 5.00 :D :D

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:19 pm
by Jacknifeben
Thanks, my first one.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:17 pm
by petekuhn
W&G Vogel didn`t only make pocket knives . I never found out much about them but thought I should show this one .. Stamped W&G Vogel Elberfeld with the tongs.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:03 pm
by petekuhn
I would say its about 1900 - 1918

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:11 pm
by FRJ
That's a fine old Holley, Jacknifeben.
You stole it! :D

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:09 am
by luckydog64
Nice rescue JKB. Petekuhn that is a major slab of stag you got. Is that a switchblade? I would like to see all of it. Those bolsters look unique also.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:52 pm
by petekuhn
16 inches when open

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:35 pm
by luckydog64
Thanks that is remarkable knife petekuhn. Dont see anything like that often. ::handshake::

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:35 pm
by doglegg
Very impressive. Handles and blade. That is a wonderful knife. ::nod:: ::nod:: ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:44 am
by edge213
Indiana Cutlery
Only made for about a year and a half.
Cool celluloid handles.

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:55 am
by BWT
That’s definitely and old obscure brand David ::tu:: ::tu:: Good find I like it!

Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:11 am
by BWT
Picked this Aaron Burkinshaw up a month or so ago. Thanks for looking and any thoughts or comments!