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Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:38 am
by LongBlade
As Joe said - quite a great showing of celluloid handles of all patterns ::tu:: ...

For what it is worth Lyle - I heard dark celluloid is more stable because of additional binders added to the mix.. the exception for a lighter celluloid is French Ivory which I underand is also very stable - that’s good news for that lovely Remington FJ :) ...

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:44 pm
by Edgewise
Owd Wullie wrote:
Interesting that some company's celluloid lasts forever, while other company's stuff self destructs with frightening regularity.
Can the good ones be considered safe and stabilised or are they still too unpredictable to trust?
Some pre-1940 cell. looks so good I'm tempted to take a chance. ::shrug::

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:34 pm
by LongBlade
My opinion - there are no guarantees with any celluloid because of the chemicals involved in the production - though I mentioned dark celluloid and supposedly French Ivory are stable I wouldn’t take the chance of storing them with other knives nor buying a very expensive celluloid knife. I hope Charlie doesn’t mind but he shared the story on AAPK of a very very expensive celluloid Robeson that he bought and eventually offgassed - I think there is something to be learned from that story. Personally it doesn’t matter if a knife has been stable for 100 years as it can still be set off to self destruct and the reasons for why are not clear. I guess storing them in the dark and cooler stable temperature may help but one never knows. I believe there are some here who stored celluloid with their other knives in safes that are dark and temperature controlled including humidity and yet there are reports of the celluloid going bad.. as pretty as it is sometimes I still will not buy it with few exceptions... the above is my opinion but based on the experience of many who collect celluloid.

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:31 pm
by RobesonsRme.com
Lee, you can share that horrid tale anytime you want.

I think sometimes, outgassing can be precipitated by the handle coming into contact with an antagonistic material, such as that sometimes used in storage or display cases that we see marketed.

Charlie

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:12 pm
by Edgewise
Thanks for the opinion, LongBlade. Knowing Charlie's experience will save me (and others) similar heartache because this thread was starting to break down my resistance to celluloid. No wonder it was such a popular material. Hopefully they can do as much with acrylic.

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:22 pm
by OLDE CUTLER
I picked up this 3 1/2" Imperial Jack over the weekend at a gunshow for a few bucks. It has what I would call green swirl celluloid and the 1930-1936 tang stamp.
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Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:18 pm
by KAW
OC... ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu:: 8) ::drool:: :mrgreen:

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:30 am
by michaelspayth
KAW wrote:Wow Joe... Neat lookin' knife & thanks for bumping up a thread on one of my favorite subjects...
Lyle... super cool lookin' knives... too bad having to rehandle the one... I really like the swirl effect it originally had...
...and that goes for yours as well OC...

... and speaking of favorites... an old (altho it doesn't look like it) Schrade Cut Co stockman:
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another old Schrade... this time a jack...
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a couple of Schrade butter & molasses including a fishtail button knife...
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A NY Knife Co. whittler...
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One of their other brands... the Electric Cut Co:
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Not sure about this one altho it is definitely some form of plastic, but is totally flat...
NYKC's Wallkill River Works (1928 - 31)...
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...and while I don't have any Ulsters with celluloid handles... I do have this Kingston...
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Love the Wallkill. One of my favorite brands and, from what I've gathered, pretty rare to come across.

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:18 pm
by michaelspayth
Just to show a few..

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:58 pm
by Old Folder
Great Celluloids being posted. ::nod::
Many color configurations I've never seen before. Love the "Snake Skins"

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:05 pm
by michaelspayth
A few others.

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:26 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
Here is a schrade cut with nice orange marbled looking celluloid handles.
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Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:30 pm
by galvanic1882
Great looking knives posted. I really like so of the fantastic colors of celluloid knives that were made early on. I am also not too afraid about gassing out. Never had one do that actually plus I store mine, mostly Utica's, in their own cases just in case.

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:59 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
Nice butter & molasses celluloid on this schrade cut.
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Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:04 am
by edge213
Henry Sears

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:06 am
by edge213
Voos

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:07 am
by edge213
Clear cut
Geo Worthington

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:08 am
by edge213
Western States

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:11 am
by edge213
Wyeths
Warrented

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:13 am
by edge213
Shapleigh DE

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:15 am
by edge213
Cattaraugus

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:16 am
by edge213
Challenge

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:19 am
by edge213
Unknowns
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Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:21 am
by edge213
Couple of more unknowns

Re: Celluloid Handles

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:36 am
by KnifeSlinger#81
These golden pearl celluloid handles are very attractive.

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