John Lloyd slip joints
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The engraved seashell gets my vote.
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I had an ivory Lloyd with the fish shield and zig-zag bolster engraving but i sold it. Is it the same knife ?
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Probably. John isn't known for duplication. I got it from Reno Herron. If it was yours Roland it has one bug. Do you remember?kootenay joe wrote:I had an ivory Lloyd with the fish shield and zig-zag bolster engraving but i sold it. Is it the same knife ?
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I sold it to someone here at AAPK but i do not recognize that name. I am not as 'fussy' as some but mine did not have anything i considered to be an 'issue'. Perhaps it is not the same knife. Can you post a picture of the knife and explain what the issue is ?
If it was mine i might recognize it.
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If it was mine i might recognize it.
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Here you go. The only problem is the blade has some play in it when closed. It opens smoothly and locks up tight.
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I never owned a knife with a zulu blade until I bought this one of John's. A beautiful mammoth.
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joeradzy, You have a superb looking knife. Congrats!
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Found this on a FB forum the other day. Mammoth ivory with a stainless blade.
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Oh, man! My favorite shield and mammoth!!! She's a beauty
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Thanks Jay. Right place and time.Doc B wrote:Oh, man! My favorite shield and mammoth!!! She's a beauty
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The Mammoth Zulu leaves me speechless.
Every time you post what i am certain is the finest Lloyd possible and then you post one that tops even that.
I am a fan of John Lloyds work and have been so ever since Vince first listed them, but i did not know he could make knives as stunning as those that you have. These are not entirely 'typical' John Lloyd knives. These are the best ones he has ever made, perfect flow and balance with an "Oh Wow !" reaction at first glance.
You must also have a sense of artistry to select or commission these knives.
They are also a very good example that price and quality are not tightly related in the custom knife world. John Lloyd's knives are not expensive customs. You can pay 4-6 times as much for a Tony Bose yet the knife would not be that much better than John's best ones.
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Every time you post what i am certain is the finest Lloyd possible and then you post one that tops even that.
I am a fan of John Lloyds work and have been so ever since Vince first listed them, but i did not know he could make knives as stunning as those that you have. These are not entirely 'typical' John Lloyd knives. These are the best ones he has ever made, perfect flow and balance with an "Oh Wow !" reaction at first glance.
You must also have a sense of artistry to select or commission these knives.
They are also a very good example that price and quality are not tightly related in the custom knife world. John Lloyd's knives are not expensive customs. You can pay 4-6 times as much for a Tony Bose yet the knife would not be that much better than John's best ones.
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Mammoth or ivory knife with fish shield i asked about on previous page was not my knife. Mine did not have that blade profile, (Zulu ?).
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The one aspect of John's knives that I feel is his hallmark is the variety of covers he uses.
I can nitpick and find a flaw here and there but the great majority of my collection I would put up against anyone. Don't forget the stag you see on most customs is his.
I can nitpick and find a flaw here and there but the great majority of my collection I would put up against anyone. Don't forget the stag you see on most customs is his.
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I know. I'm just feeling a little envious.
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John is also one of the nicest people you will ever meet. He loves that 52100 steel.
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You're absolutely correct. There are plenty of custom makers no need to deal with anything less than the best.mike miller wrote:John is also one of the nicest people you will ever meet. He loves that 52100 steel.
The ivory trapper I just got is stainless and I also have a small one I'll get around to posting in CM154.
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My smallest John Lloyd knife is a walrus ivory sowbelly that is 3 3/16" closed.
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Bet it is nice & slim, perfect for your pocket. My experience with ivory is it is safer to have bolsters and caps. With a shadow pattern, attractive as it is, if dropped onto a hard surface, the ivory can crack. Bolsters & caps offer good protection when knife is dropped.
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In all honesty Roland there would probably still be damage. This one has already been repaired by John. I noticed a couple of cracks on the butt end. I don't know the cause but I suspect it was very dry in my apartment during the winter.kootenay joe wrote:Bet it is nice & slim, perfect for your pocket. My experience with ivory is it is safer to have bolsters and caps. With a shadow pattern, attractive as it is, if dropped onto a hard surface, the ivory can crack. Bolsters & caps offer good protection when knife is dropped.
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Ivory is tooth enamel. I do not think changes in humidity have much effect on it. I have ivory carvings, in the family for over 100 years. Some have cracks and they show no noticeable change over this time.
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Never knew that. Thanks. Wonder what the cause was. Since it's the first time one of my knives has cracked like that I won't fret too much.
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On a pocket knife the cracks are usually at a handle pin and usually happen with the final tap of the makers brass hammer to seat the pin 'just so'.
I have wondered if it is possible that the ivory around the pin does not crack at the time but holds a certain amount of tension from the pressure of the pin and then 'lets go' i.e. cracks at some time later.
Museums recommend ivory be stored at a certain humidity but i think this is a standard recommendation for any old object of value.
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I have wondered if it is possible that the ivory around the pin does not crack at the time but holds a certain amount of tension from the pressure of the pin and then 'lets go' i.e. cracks at some time later.
Museums recommend ivory be stored at a certain humidity but i think this is a standard recommendation for any old object of value.
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This is from a series John did about 9 years ago. According to a letter from him he said "I found brass, bronze, titanium, cast iron, wrought iron, ss, high & low carbon steel, copper, silver. About 12 total if I remember." It was engraved by Tommy Bladwin of Tampa/St. Pete. The steel is CPM154.
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Just for the record John makes an excellent straight edge also.
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The engraving on that all metal one is beautiful! I bet it feels solid, in hand
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