What Knife Would You Like GEC To Make ?
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Greg and Roland, thank you for the encouragement. I'm sure GEC has actual knife designers who have creative talent and knife construction knowledge and experience. There is not much creativity or inspiration involved in the photo editing that I'm doing which is cropping the blades of off one 79 pattern and pasting them on another.
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remake of the acrylic 2 blade congress #61 - super little knife
pffffft that's not a knife ......... now THAT'S a knife !! Crocodile Dundee
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I agree. The 61 is very fine pattern, especially in the 2 blade Half Congress.
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KJ, please consider my earlier post in this thread regarding barlows to be barlow musing only. What I really want GEC to make would have to be broken into three categories: work knife, EDC, and collectible. My wishes are as follows:
For a work knife, I would like to see a #35 F&F Calf Pen variant, but with a straight clip and large sheepsfoot, and no liner lock. The middle separator flat head screwdriver can stay. Without the liner lock this would be a little thinner than the original Calf Pen, and the substitution of the straight clip for one-arm blade would increase pocketability and marketability. For covers I'd like to see black, maroon, and red linen micarta options.
For EDC, I really need two knives: a #77 single straight clip, and a #09 Esquire with a sheepsfoot main and pen secondary. Why not just carry a stockman? Well, because to get the size clip blade I'm looking for I would need a larger stockman, which would not be as thin as I would like. Thinness has become more important to me lately, and a #77 clip single would be the sweet spot for blade size and overall thinness. A #09 with a sheepsfoot main would give the perfect size utility knife and the ideal size pen blade, IMO. Of course I'd want matching cover materials, and GEC has done lots of nice candidates in the past: sawcut caramel bone, or perhaps blue giraffe bone would be awesome. Antique ivory paper micarta would also be a very classy option for these two matching knives.
For the collectible category, my one wish would be a duplicate of the famous Northwoods Fremont Jack in blue mammoth ivory. (KSF pic, not mine) - Lee
For a work knife, I would like to see a #35 F&F Calf Pen variant, but with a straight clip and large sheepsfoot, and no liner lock. The middle separator flat head screwdriver can stay. Without the liner lock this would be a little thinner than the original Calf Pen, and the substitution of the straight clip for one-arm blade would increase pocketability and marketability. For covers I'd like to see black, maroon, and red linen micarta options.
For EDC, I really need two knives: a #77 single straight clip, and a #09 Esquire with a sheepsfoot main and pen secondary. Why not just carry a stockman? Well, because to get the size clip blade I'm looking for I would need a larger stockman, which would not be as thin as I would like. Thinness has become more important to me lately, and a #77 clip single would be the sweet spot for blade size and overall thinness. A #09 with a sheepsfoot main would give the perfect size utility knife and the ideal size pen blade, IMO. Of course I'd want matching cover materials, and GEC has done lots of nice candidates in the past: sawcut caramel bone, or perhaps blue giraffe bone would be awesome. Antique ivory paper micarta would also be a very classy option for these two matching knives.
For the collectible category, my one wish would be a duplicate of the famous Northwoods Fremont Jack in blue mammoth ivory. (KSF pic, not mine) - Lee
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Good post Lee. Well thought out. Thanks.
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I've been wanting them to build a Jumbo Jack, I'm hoping the 86 coming out this year will have the girth of a Jumbo, it's got the length at 3 7/8".
Empire Jumbo and a 77.
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JohnR, that's a good idea. A 3 7/8" frame could be another slender Trapper or Jack and be not that different from previous knives of this size.
But if they make a stout jack, well rounded handles and a master blade of thicker stock, a "Jumbo" jack, it would be distinct from any pattern they have offered so far.
What about emailing your suggestion re: Jumbo jack please to GEC ?
kj
But if they make a stout jack, well rounded handles and a master blade of thicker stock, a "Jumbo" jack, it would be distinct from any pattern they have offered so far.
What about emailing your suggestion re: Jumbo jack please to GEC ?
kj
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This is a Rough Rider. I love the pattern. The main blade locks open. You press the secondary to release the main.
I would love to see GEC make one like this.
I would love to see GEC make one like this.
David
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kootenay joe wrote:JohnR, that's a good idea. A 3 7/8" frame could be another slender Trapper or Jack and be not that different from previous knives of this size.
But if they make a stout jack, well rounded handles and a master blade of thicker stock, a "Jumbo" jack, it would be distinct from any pattern they have offered so far.
What about emailing your suggestion re: Jumbo jack please to GEC ?
kj
Roland, I have talked to Bill at the Rendezvous about doing Jumbo's and last year he spent some time looking at my vintage ones, liked the knives but did not think they would sell. Thats why I was kind of surprised to see the new 86 frame, a Jumbo could be easily built on that. I think Jumbo's would sell quite well.
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When you look at knife catalogs from before WW II you see many patterns, a wide range of sizes and handle materials. I would like to see GEC make a wider range of distinct patterns. Many of the GEC patterns resemble each other closely, e.g. compare the various #77's with the #78's, slight difference in front bolster shape is the difference.
So i agree with JohnR: let's go for 'more different', be brave, do a run of Jumbo Jacks. People will buy them. They are GEC. We love GEC.
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So i agree with JohnR: let's go for 'more different', be brave, do a run of Jumbo Jacks. People will buy them. They are GEC. We love GEC.
kj
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A slimline trapper single blade with a spey no shield jigged white bone!
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Oh, and I'd like to see more H10 small Bowie fixed blades. And more bottle openers, with bone handles, please. Skip the acrylics, please. I guess I went way over a "knife" wish, and probably exceeded my allotment of "knives" wishes!
Speaking of fixed blades, did anyone see the steak knives that they ran in 2018 up for sale anywhere? I never saw or heard anything about them after the production pics and "GEC Illustrated" cover.
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Speaking of fixed blades, did anyone see the steak knives that they ran in 2018 up for sale anywhere? I never saw or heard anything about them after the production pics and "GEC Illustrated" cover.
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I have a #61 and I enjoy it, but my #13 Clerk is twice the knife the #61 half congress is. And at only 1/4" longer.kootenay joe wrote:I agree. The 61 is very fine pattern, especially in the 2 blade Half Congress.
kj
That said, I sure would like to see some more #62s produced.
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I personally would love to see the #35 pattern in a stockman configuration, preferably in stainless.
Also think a #14 flipped around version (like the #79 is of the #78) in a single spring, opposite end pen knife would be really neat.
Also think a #14 flipped around version (like the #79 is of the #78) in a single spring, opposite end pen knife would be really neat.
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How about something affordable,
and in enough numbers that anybody can actually get one .....
yes, I know ..... blasphemy ....
and in enough numbers that anybody can actually get one .....
yes, I know ..... blasphemy ....
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The GEC knives start at around $80. I think this is "affordable" by most.And with the last few runs GEC has staggered the releases and this has led to the knives being available for up to a week or longer for some. The availability now is much improved from a year ago and longer.
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Agreed. If somebody wants endless supply of slipjoints at $40-60, that's what Case is for. With that comes average fit and finish and sometimes questionable QC.
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Ajd, can you post a pic of a 61 & a 13 together so we can see the size comparison ? I have a 61 but no #13.
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I stand corrected. The #13 and #61 are pretty much identical in length, (#61 might actually be a fraction of a MM longer) but the #13 brings half an inch more main blade to the table (#13 2 7/8" #61 2 3/8".) In terms of actual cutting edge, according to the 'ol calipers, the #61 has 2.15" and the #13 has 2.6".
I also think the #13 feels better in hand. But that's all personal preference.
I also think the #13 feels better in hand. But that's all personal preference.
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Your suggestion of the "flipped" #14 is what I had in mind with the #09 Esquire. At 2-7/8" the 09 is very close to the 3" size of the 14. I'm also a fan of the #35. I think GEC could produce endless variations on the 35 frame. Every time I carry my Vic Alox Soldier or Electrician I think of the possibilities GEC could realize on the #35.Ajd3530 wrote:I personally would love to see the #35 pattern in a stockman configuration, preferably in stainless.
Also think a #14 flipped around version (like the #79 is of the #78) in a single spring, opposite end pen knife would be really neat.
Regarding your opinion of the #13: I don't own a congress knife nor have I handled one, but I know it's a traditional pattern. Can you comment on what you like about the congress shape? You mentioned it feels good in hand, but I don't see the utility in the shape. GEC made a #13 in a sheepsfoot main with a pen secondary, which is the blade configuration I'm looking for in a smallish knife to pair with a medium clip single. But I'm on the fence about the congress pattern. I recently got a Case stockman with square bolsters that actually dig into my palm during use. Do you find the congress square bolsters to be ergonomic?
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I would LOVE to see a 35 cattle knife.m0nk wrote:I'm also a fan of the #35. I think GEC could produce endless variations on the 35 frame. Every time I carry my Vic Alox Soldier or Electrician I think of the possibilities GEC could realize on the #35.
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Paul, are you thinking something like this? This is a photoshop mock up. The nail nick on the sheepsfoot would probably be facing toward the back on a real knife.KnifeSlinger#81 wrote:I would LOVE to see a 35 cattle knife.
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That would be great. Nice photoshop. I prefer a 3rd blade but I'd buy one with a punch too.RalphAlsip wrote:Paul, are you thinking something like this? This is a photoshop mock up. The nail nick on the sheepsfoot would probably be facing toward the back on a real knife.KnifeSlinger#81 wrote:I would LOVE to see a 35 cattle knife.
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Lee,m0nk wrote:Your suggestion of the "flipped" #14 is what I had in mind with the #09 Esquire. At 2-7/8" the 09 is very close to the 3" size of the 14. I'm also a fan of the #35. I think GEC could produce endless variations on the 35 frame. Every time I carry my Vic Alox Soldier or Electrician I think of the possibilities GEC could realize on the #35.Ajd3530 wrote:I personally would love to see the #35 pattern in a stockman configuration, preferably in stainless.
Also think a #14 flipped around version (like the #79 is of the #78) in a single spring, opposite end pen knife would be really neat.
Regarding your opinion of the #13: I don't own a congress knife nor have I handled one, but I know it's a traditional pattern. Can you comment on what you like about the congress shape? You mentioned it feels good in hand, but I don't see the utility in the shape. GEC made a #13 in a sheepsfoot main with a pen secondary, which is the blade configuration I'm looking for in a smallish knife to pair with a medium clip single. But I'm on the fence about the congress pattern. I recently got a Case stockman with square bolsters that actually dig into my palm during use. Do you find the congress square bolsters to be ergonomic?
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I hadn't realized the #09 Esquire was that size, I had always thought it was in the 2 5/8 range like the Pembertons .
To me, granted I do not have especially large hands, the #13 presents no problems in hand. I find its gentle curve fits in quite well along the base of my fingers. Its bolsters are slightly pinched, and I've never had any problems in the pocket with it. It is far more pocket friendly than the Northfiled #61s.
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Lee, I have several Congresses and I do find them awkward to use and some blades nearly impossible to open. I don’t have a GEC Congress to compare. I have several Case, Boker, Green River, S&M, H&R and others I can’t remember. The Schatt and Morgan is the easiest to open and the easiest on the hands to use. The bolsters are a bit smoother on the ends too.m0nk wrote:Your suggestion of the "flipped" #14 is what I had in mind with the #09 Esquire. At 2-7/8" the 09 is very close to the 3" size of the 14. I'm also a fan of the #35. I think GEC could produce endless variations on the 35 frame. Every time I carry my Vic Alox Soldier or Electrician I think of the possibilities GEC could realize on the #35.Ajd3530 wrote:I personally would love to see the #35 pattern in a stockman configuration, preferably in stainless.
Also think a #14 flipped around version (like the #79 is of the #78) in a single spring, opposite end pen knife would be really neat.
Regarding your opinion of the #13: I don't own a congress knife nor have I handled one, but I know it's a traditional pattern. Can you comment on what you like about the congress shape? You mentioned it feels good in hand, but I don't see the utility in the shape. GEC made a #13 in a sheepsfoot main with a pen secondary, which is the blade configuration I'm looking for in a smallish knife to pair with a medium clip single. But I'm on the fence about the congress pattern. I recently got a Case stockman with square bolsters that actually dig into my palm during use. Do you find the congress square bolsters to be ergonomic?
-Lee
I found that with Congresses it’s a good idea to try and handle them first before you buy.
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