I believe it is the same thing as a budding blade or a spey blade, in which case some ill-treated under-appreciated secretaries in days of yore may have wished to use it for one of those other purposes? (no smilie here).jxr1197 wrote: Now I'm curious what an 'office' blade is?
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Following this thread can sometimes make me wonder "What's the use??" in accumulating old Schrades given the worlds of difference in class between my hoard and the museum showcases you folks casually trot out here.
The spey blade is the "office blade," I've always assumed because the radiused belly could be credibly used as an ink 'eraser' and would probably be the blade of choice for opening parcels as well. I noticed that the catalog listing for the standard "Office Knife" has a spey typical of the pattern but the advertising knife has a smaller pen blade in its place. Very cool knife,jxr1197 wrote:Now I'm curious what an 'office' blade is?
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Tsar, I for one am glad you do follow the threads...anyone can buy fancy knives, you bring a ton of knowledge to the table.
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Thanks Cal and Tony! I always appreciate it when collectors share the knowledge
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Just an old tool that never got used. American made quality and craftsmanship that far surpassed the junk we find in stores today. In a small way the knives found in this forum represent a bygone era of American history when American craftsmen and workers, and American made products ruled the economic world and helped us to become the greatest country in history....Feeling a little forlorn and patriotic at the same time today. LOL A lot of talk these days about how in the heck we got here. Where most of what is in our stores came from countries that hate our guts. What were we thinking when we decided to give it all to China? That, is only beginning to come back to bite us in the ass and will soon become deadly! SMH End of rant. But hey! Have a nice day!
This tool fills a hole in my little collection that includes ones with the Ulster and Craftsman brand. (don't get me started on foreign made Craftsman tools and Sears bankruptcy)
This tool fills a hole in my little collection that includes ones with the Ulster and Craftsman brand. (don't get me started on foreign made Craftsman tools and Sears bankruptcy)
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Great TL-29, Mustanger! My notes say 1967 (ish) on those for Sears. The 204-S was also earlier done up in cocobola. The "S" stands for shackle. And here is a companion to yours, also from about the same time. 3/4 inches thick with three springs.
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Here is a pre-1947 version with a lockback instead of a linerlock.
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1967-ish was my best guess for the ones with the saw blade. I based that guess on when the, one year only, Craftsman 9555 utility knife was released in '67 with the saw blade. I had no idea about the Delrin 204S. I know it continued a little past 1972 from tang stamps I've seen. My notes from Michael Little's research of the Craftsman 9560 version of the 204S says, 'Started as an Ulster in '66, continued as SW 204 till '75'. As near as I can tell, Craftsman went to Imperial to continue making the tool with a different model number and slightly different handle scales. I have wondered what the S stood for. Ulster and Camillus used to use the term clevis and I have that stuck in my head. I overlook the word shackle a lot. Thanks.tongueriver wrote:Great TL-29, Mustanger! My notes say 1967 (ish) on those for Sears. The 204-S was also earlier done up in cocobola. The "S" stands for shackle. And here is a companion to yours, also from about the same time. 3/4 inches thick with three springs.
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I would like to see additional picture(s) to detail the lock mechanism.tongueriver wrote:Here is a pre-1947 version with a lockback instead of a linerlock.
For reference and posterity.
In the catalog cut it appears the knife handle has pre-made hole for the "shackle" even though one is not in place.
Interesting .....
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I picked up this pair of paratrooper knives from an estate sale. One has the cord cutter and liner-lock clip point and the other has only a clip point liner Lock. The clip point blades in both are automatic openers. Apologies for image quality.Oops..my bad..only the single blade knife is a Shrade, the one with the paracord cutter is a Camilus..apologies for the over site..
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Nice electricians knife Cal, I have not seen one that have a lockback, unless it is the lock that is released by pressing down on the spear blade.
Here’s one I got a couple weeks ago, I had to reshape the tip of the spear blade as it had been broken off a little bit. I took some before pictures but can’t find them right now. I couldn’t find a match to this knife in the E Catalog, but I did find a 2053 that was the closest to this pattern, except the 2053 has a sheepfoot blade. Do you know what pattern number this is?
In addition to the tip issue there is a small chip out of the handle at the rear bolster on the mark side. None of the blades lock up on this knife, both the cutting blade and the screwdriver blade are stamped and both have long pulls. The screwdriver blade has been ground on one side. I’m sure it works well for stripping wire or scraping something. I like the peach seed bone and the shield is one of my favorite patterns.
I put up a few pictures here so you can see what it looks like.
Here’s one I got a couple weeks ago, I had to reshape the tip of the spear blade as it had been broken off a little bit. I took some before pictures but can’t find them right now. I couldn’t find a match to this knife in the E Catalog, but I did find a 2053 that was the closest to this pattern, except the 2053 has a sheepfoot blade. Do you know what pattern number this is?
In addition to the tip issue there is a small chip out of the handle at the rear bolster on the mark side. None of the blades lock up on this knife, both the cutting blade and the screwdriver blade are stamped and both have long pulls. The screwdriver blade has been ground on one side. I’m sure it works well for stripping wire or scraping something. I like the peach seed bone and the shield is one of my favorite patterns.
I put up a few pictures here so you can see what it looks like.
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Dale nice find! What you have there is actually a 2053. The knife in the catalog is a 2053 1/2. The 1/2 means a sheepfoot was substituted for the standard spear blade.
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Thanks for the info Eric.
Do you know if this pattern was made with a locking SD blade? I don't see any evidence that this one ever had a lock.
Do you know if this pattern was made with a locking SD blade? I don't see any evidence that this one ever had a lock.
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Dale, no locks on those teardrop models. The only knife with the spring lock, as far as I know, was the 2042, which was very similar to the TL-29. There was also a smaller, slimmer model that I seem to recall, but I think what I'm thinking of was made by Empire.
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Picked up this Schrade Walden 804 whittler in bone, been looking for one in bone but they don't seem to pop up all that often. Knife is in decent shape but has some staining and pitting and has been poorly sharpened, still has an etch.
Would the bone handle ones have been before the synthetic handles or could the knife be purchased either way? I've always assumed bone was earlier.
Would the bone handle ones have been before the synthetic handles or could the knife be purchased either way? I've always assumed bone was earlier.
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The jigged bone 804s were 1947 to about 1960/61, when Delrin plastic took over. However, in the 1980s one could buy a "Heritage" 804 (with much different tang stamping) in smooth bone, and, I believe, stainless steel. Also nice knives.
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tongueriver wrote:The jigged bone 804s were 1947 to about 1960/61, when Delrin plastic took over. However, in the 1980s one could buy a "Heritage" 804 (with much different tang stamping) in smooth bone, and, I believe, stainless steel. Also nice knives.
Thank you Cal, appreciate the information.
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Actually I have had this one for about a month already, but only presently came to mind to post it here...
A Schrade Cut. Co. 3" Sleeveboard Lobster; Pattern №8683T with 3 blades (pen-quill-file); bone stag, N/S tip bolsters & milled liners.
as listed in the 1926 catalog:
I got it from Bob Pomerantz (a board member of the Wawarsing Knife Museum) at the Lehigh Valley Fall Knife show.
A Schrade Cut. Co. 3" Sleeveboard Lobster; Pattern №8683T with 3 blades (pen-quill-file); bone stag, N/S tip bolsters & milled liners.
as listed in the 1926 catalog:
I got it from Bob Pomerantz (a board member of the Wawarsing Knife Museum) at the Lehigh Valley Fall Knife show.
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Picked this one up recently...must have been put together at the end as it has a 296Y blade
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It's a Quail Unlimited SFO. I don't know when that edition came out but the 296Y was cataloged from '92 - '98. Some of the Smokey Mtn. Knife Works SFO, 'The Trapper', knives sport 296Y blades and they were ordered and shipped in '92. So your knife may be a near end edition or as early as '92. It seems like it was a common practice to put blades with varying tang stamps on SFO knives. And even on the Great American Outdoors series Scrimshaw trappers. I know they did an LB7 pattern for QU with the same bone and shield. Really nice knife! I like those big trappers.dweb1897 wrote:Picked this one up recently...must have been put together at the end as it has a 296Y blade
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KAW, i like your Cut Co sleeveboard lobster. I have a few of the SCC Gent's type pen knives. Takes a lot of skill to make these smaller pen knives yet most collectors are not interested in them. In hand they are every bit as pleasing as the larger Jack knives.
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173 WondaWood, minty. Bad scan, sorry.
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Picked up this Heritage Series whittler, this one marked for Hoffritz Cutlery.
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Nice whittler. Schrade was looking pretty good in the 1980s. Who could see what was coming? I notice that there are through pins on that knife, so I reckon it was at least partly made by Camillus. A plus!