Help with I D
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Old Knife not sure who are when it was made any help would be appreciated . Thanks
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Not sure who made it, but it looks French or perhaps German.
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I'm thinking Eastern European. The tang stamp looks like a Cyrillic cypher.
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I have thought that this style with horn handle were made in France although i have not see one marked "France".
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Just looked up the Cyrillic alphabet on Wikipedia and it is indeed a cypher from the alphabet. Not sure how to pronounce it but if you look up the list it is the 6th one from the bottom in the right side column. In the picture of the tang stamp it is upside down.knife7knut wrote:I'm thinking Eastern European. The tang stamp looks like a Cyrillic cypher.
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Very interesting!
If the photo rotates 180 degrees,I think there are two cyrillic letters surrounded by a circle. (ГБ). These are latin G and B.
Also look like the letter Ъ, but due to grammatical reasons, I exclude it as a probability.
If the photo rotates 180 degrees,I think there are two cyrillic letters surrounded by a circle. (ГБ). These are latin G and B.
Also look like the letter Ъ, but due to grammatical reasons, I exclude it as a probability.
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The saw blade is thinner on the back, right?
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yes it is thinner on the top side . thanks for the help I usually can find out when & who made the knife this one has me stumped .Eustace wrote:The saw blade is thinner on the back, right?
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If we define the knife made in the first half of the 20th century, then the countries using the Cyrillic alphabet are 3 - Bulgaria, Serbia and the USSR. Nearest geneticist to Bulgarian peoples - Croats and Romanians - for political and religious reasons pass to the Latin alphabet earlier in the 18th and 19th centuries. For a number of reasons, the knife can not be Russian. Serbian pocket knife I have never seen - neither old nor new. It is possible that this is a knife produced in Germany or France, ordered by a Bulgarian merchant.
The photo below is a small saw in my collection. In my opinion, the blade is very similar to the shown above. The grind is opposite, the thickest of the saw's teeth, and thin to the back. Tang stamp is "С.Ж.Дацов и Сие" (S.Z.Datsov &Co.) Sava Zhivkov Datsov (1857-1940) is a distinguished Bulgarian scientist, economist, academician, public figure and patriot. He is also an agronomist, trader and industrialist. Provider of the royal botanical garden. He lost five sons in the First World War, and his daughter died of a disease. He bequeaths all his property at the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences.
But he is not a manufacturer. This saw was ordered with his logo, most probably a producer in Germany, somewhere in the early 20th century.
The photo below is a small saw in my collection. In my opinion, the blade is very similar to the shown above. The grind is opposite, the thickest of the saw's teeth, and thin to the back. Tang stamp is "С.Ж.Дацов и Сие" (S.Z.Datsov &Co.) Sava Zhivkov Datsov (1857-1940) is a distinguished Bulgarian scientist, economist, academician, public figure and patriot. He is also an agronomist, trader and industrialist. Provider of the royal botanical garden. He lost five sons in the First World War, and his daughter died of a disease. He bequeaths all his property at the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences.
But he is not a manufacturer. This saw was ordered with his logo, most probably a producer in Germany, somewhere in the early 20th century.
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Eustace we are fortunate to have you posting here. Knowledge of Eastern European countries is very low in North America so your posts are helpful, 'new knowledge' for most of us. Not only do you know about knives, history & politics, your English seems perfect to me as your posts read as if English is your mother tongue.
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Thank you, kj, but the truth is, my English is pretty bad. I work in a multinational company, and communicate daily in English. I understand everything said and written, I can talk so-so, but always write with the help of translation programs. I only edit the translated if it does not look good to me.
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Absolutely we are fortunate. Very interesting to have someone who can shed some light on things that we Americans know little or nothing about.kootenay joe wrote:Eustace we are fortunate to have you posting here. Knowledge of Eastern European countries is very low in North America so your posts are helpful, 'new knowledge' for most of us. Not only do you know about knives, history & politics, your English seems perfect to me as your posts read as if English is your mother tongue.
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We are also fortunate to have people like Dimitri (Millerbros.) and Ray( Knife7nut ) who have 3 or 4 of everything and can show us what we don't know.OLDE CUTLER wrote:Absolutely we are fortunate. Very interesting to have someone who can shed some light on things that we Americans know little or nothing about.kootenay joe wrote:Eustace we are fortunate to have you posting here. Knowledge of Eastern European countries is very low in North America so your posts are helpful, 'new knowledge' for most of us. Not only do you know about knives, history & politics, your English seems perfect to me as your posts read as if English is your mother tongue.
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I'm not sure we have pin this one down but I have learned a lot. Thanks for all the info
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I think it is 'pinned down' to most likely France and some time ago, before any of us were born.
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