Does anybody have an 81 deluxe stockman?
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Does anybody have an 81 deluxe stockman?
I was scrolling through the camillus catalogs and came across this. It greatly intrigued me. Does anybody own or have seen one? I want to know if they were only made in bone and if they had coined liners like the 69 deluxe stockman.
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Re: Does anybody have an 81 deluxe stockman?
Paul, why all this self inflicted pain. You fixate on a hard to find GEC 81, now it's a near impossible Camillus 81.
From the information I was able to find, the 81 only came in a synthetic Camillus called Brownstag®. Using the 69 and 80 as a guide, I would have to guess the 81 did have coined liners. It was not made in 1955 or before and is not in the 1956 price list. The first and only catalog I have access to that shows the 81 is from 1957. The 81 does not appear in or after the 1965 catalog so it was only made for a very few years. Exactly how many, I don't know. Unless you get lucky, you may be looking for this one for quite a while. Good luck.
From the information I was able to find, the 81 only came in a synthetic Camillus called Brownstag®. Using the 69 and 80 as a guide, I would have to guess the 81 did have coined liners. It was not made in 1955 or before and is not in the 1956 price list. The first and only catalog I have access to that shows the 81 is from 1957. The 81 does not appear in or after the 1965 catalog so it was only made for a very few years. Exactly how many, I don't know. Unless you get lucky, you may be looking for this one for quite a while. Good luck.
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This is a four inch stockman for Craftsman (that means 1941 or later) which is almost certainly a Camillus. But I think it is a #69 clone, not a #81. ?
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#69 is 4" closed with a Turkish Clip main blade. In 1957, the #69 had a Federal shield.
#81 is 3-7/8" closed with a regular Clip blade. The #81 had a football shield. Can't tell you what shield a Craftsman had. It was sometimes different than the shield for the maker's brand knives.
#81 is 3-7/8" closed with a regular Clip blade. The #81 had a football shield. Can't tell you what shield a Craftsman had. It was sometimes different than the shield for the maker's brand knives.
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Re: Does anybody have an 81 deluxe stockman?
Jerry thanks for all the info. While I'm not a camillus guy there are a few patterns I'd really like to have in rogers bone. Stockmans are something I collect whether they are schrade or not so I like to keep my eye out for certain ones that catch my eye. The catalog (1955) says genuine bone stag, so is the catalog incorrect? Approximately when did camillus stop using bone? I'd assume early 60's but my dad once told me to never assume anything.
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Well, I know what I want and I can't do nothin' about that.jerryd6818 wrote:Paul, why all this self inflicted pain. You fixate on a hard to find GEC 81, now it's a near impossible Camillus 81.
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Looks like I didn't go back far enough. I didn't see it in the 1955 catalog so I didn't bother with anything before that. I just saw it's in the 1954 catalog listed as having bone handles. As I mentioned before, it shows up in the 1957 catalog as Brownstag® which is a synthetic and isn't in the 1965 catalog at all.
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Re: Does anybody have an 81 deluxe stockman?
Thank you Jerry.
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Re: Does anybody have an 81 deluxe stockman?
I have seen one 81 pattern in bone. I own one in the Brownstag handle material. It does have the coined liners and the "jimped" center liner on the back. It also has the "Camillus DeLuxe" etch.
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Well Jerry, I ain't been looking but I came across a camillus 81 for sale, seemingly bone and in unused condition, so I bought it. Never expected I'd find one. I feel lucky.
I'll show it when it arrives.
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Re: Does anybody have an 81 deluxe stockman?
Paul did your 81 ever arrive? would love to see some pics if it did.KnifeSlinger#81 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:24 amWell Jerry, I ain't been looking but I came across a camillus 81 for sale, seemingly bone and in unused condition, so I bought it. Never expected I'd find one. I feel lucky.
I'll show it when it arrives.
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Re: Does anybody have an 81 deluxe stockman?
On this page...and it's a BEAUTY!!!Rotten wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:32 pmPaul did your 81 ever arrive? would love to see some pics if it did.KnifeSlinger#81 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:24 amWell Jerry, I ain't been looking but I came across a camillus 81 for sale, seemingly bone and in unused condition, so I bought it. Never expected I'd find one. I feel lucky.
I'll show it when it arrives.
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It did. I may as well post it here in case anybody looks one up.
Thanks for adding that link Doc B.
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Re: Does anybody have an 81 deluxe stockman?
That is a real beauty! I’ma big fan of 3 3/8-4 1/4” stockman knives and that one looks just about perfect! Great find.
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Thanks Wade. I was very happy to add such a nice example to my collection. It still has the factory edges.
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Paul, you are quite the detective. Great find.
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Re: Does anybody have an 81 deluxe stockman?
...I don't have a #81, but I do have a #69 with the worked liners!!, I would have sworn I had a #81, but I can't find it!!........ ...............
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Just got lucky Jerry, pretty much fell into it. Thanks.
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I'd rather be lucky than good.KnifeSlinger#81 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:57 amJust got lucky Jerry, pretty much fell into it. Thanks.
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This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
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This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012