All About Pocket Knives

Just curious why? As long as all state and federal laws are adhered to I see no issue? Guns must ship to an FFL dealer. I send most of mine UPS ground. Handguns have to go next day express.

I agree with Kaleb.... .....but I would assume that it would be up to Bryan...and would definitely respect His decision either way.

I've seen all kinds of junk listed on this site for sale, besides knives. Why not a gun?

The biggest concern I have in this matter is liability issues. I've read that private transactions through the internet is a popular target for folks who are unable to buy guns legally from more traditional venues. I'm not sure how much responsibility falls onto the intermediary (AAPK) should a bad transaction go down.

Say, for instance, a member unfamiliar with state & federal laws sells to a crazy lunatic via AAPK and does not go through FFL dealer. Then, say said crazy lune goes and does unthinkable acts. Could AAPK be held accountable in any way?

If anyone knows more about this, please chime in.

I love guns as much as the next guy... I just do not know how to make sure AAPK is immune to any & all potential liability

Bryan, A gun can only be shipped to a FFL holder. It is then the FFL holder's responsibility to ensure the buyer is legal. However, I do realize this is a pocket knife site, not a gun site. (No pun intended)

wishful wrote:A gun can only be shipped to a FFL holder.

Yes, that's the law but there's nothing to stop you, me or anyone else from boxing up their old Colt 1911 and shipping it off to Joe Schmuckatelli in Fart Sack North Dakota. Who's going to know? I shipped my Henry Golden Boy back to the factory for repairs and they shipped it back to me. No FFL licensed individual involved and it went as smooth as silk. Just saying what can and I'm confident, does happen.

Jerry, The law does allow a person to return a gun to the manufacturer and receive it back again with no licensee involved.

Thanks. I wasn't aware of that.

black powder firearms are not regulated by B.A.T.F...

the winchesters i posted were black powder based firearms.

and while i respect Bryan and this site...the methods used to discourage me in this sale were substandard..

gringo is correct. Black powder arms have no restrictions. You order one from cabellas, dixie gun works, track of the wolf or any other place or individual they can ship it right to your home, no FFL required because they are not recognized as modern firearms.

This is True..

Don't know too much about the rifles that Gringo posted but, they appear to be cartridge loaded guns, which I don't think would qualify as "black powder" or "muzzel loaders".

Tom, that is what I remember seeing as well

I had not seen this pic before....The lever action is definitely cartridge...the other looks like a trap door or rolling block type of rifle..it also would be cartridge.IMO.

He may have been referring to "Black Powder Shells".....which Winchester made a model 1887 Lever Action that shot 10 or 12 gauge Black Powder shells.

Neither of those in the pic looks like a Model 1887 tho...

The rifle at bottom of pic looks like it loads through the stock, so it would have to be cartridge. Here's the read on them:
http://allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_f ... &start=105

Yeah...they're both cartridge.

Thanks for the link,TJ.

Not a problem Johnny. I did sell a .45 cal. Kentucky Long Rifle replica through AAPK after getting permission from Bryan. Can't remember the handle of the AAPK'er I sold it to but he was in Florida and had orange groves, "Sunburst" maybe??

I kinda remember that. ..What ever happened to Sunburst...do you know?
I really liked Him...I got my first S&M from Ralph.

the .22 is a short round, no longer manufactured...cant even get ammo for the weapon.
the .25-.35 is a "smokeless" round...rounds are scarce...i read someone is now remanufacturing them.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/difference_black_powders.htm

both weapons were sold for high dollar at the last gun show...right in front of our local deputy dan...

not my weapons...did a favor for an old man who couldn't get out to sell them himself. made zero dollars.

Cartridge firearms manufactured before the cut off date of December 31, 1898 are considered antiques, and as such are not restricted under the "Gun Control Act of 1968". They do not require an FFL to be sold, traded or bartered. The same goes for Muzzle loading rifles with barrels exceeding 16 inches and muzzle loading shotguns with barrels exceeding 18 inches and their replicas.

That's Federal law, however within the United States, antique exemptions vary considerably from state to state.

Jerryd6818 Esq.
Seabag lawyer extraordinair

jerrry...the exception to that rule is if a Cartridge firearm can be upgraded to a modern round...there is a list, i checked, some mauser actions, some shotguns...the list is short.

Well Donald, you have to keep in mind, I'm not licensed. In spite of the fancy title, I'm just a seabag lawyer.

i'm just a trinket salesman.

I love guns as much as the next person and believe we all have a right to own them, less the convicted felons and mentally unstable. The only problem I would mention is the B.A.T.F. can make a head ache out of nothing and with law suit happy lawyers out there that even file law suits against well known gun manufacturers, if something "possibly" did happen everyone gets their name added to the law suit. If AAPK was in the dead right and did nothing at all wrong, it would still cost AAPK a considerable amount of money to hire a lawyer to show the court the website's innocence. That's money that Bryan could use toward AAPK. I just don't think B.A.T.F. and AAPK are good letters that go together.

Aimus